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Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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This is very interesting - like most influenced by GI theory, I had assumed that rate of absorption/avoiding an insulin spike meant that if you wanted something sweet, it would be OK or at least least-bad, if it were mixed with slow-digesting items such as protein. Guess not :-(

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Often people are wary of new results about health, so it's worth pointing out that this paper is rigorous and the conclusion is very likely to be correct, as explained by this comment on Reddit's /r/science [1].

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/6oufus/comment/dkk...

Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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This is very interesting - like most influenced by GI theory, I had assumed that rate of absorption/avoiding an insulin spike meant that if you wanted something sweet, it would be OK or at least least-bad, if it were mixed with slow-digesting items such as protein. Guess not :-(

GI isn't the whole story. Some proteins trigger insuline response way more than blood sugar.

This site has a lot of interesting material on the subject. https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/insulin-index/

Couldn't find the particular text I was loooing for but apparently there was this study where they mixed pasta with milk or water and added glucose to achieve equal mixes of glucose, lactose and such. The mix with the milk had something like three times higher insulin response.

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Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes "calories in calories out" theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the "measure your intake and exercise" crowd)

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Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes "calories in calories out" theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the "measure your intake and exercise" crowd)

Exercise is a bad way to increase calories out, because it's just too efficient. The conversion is something like 1 mile run = 1 tbsp peanut butter.

Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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Lately I've been having this feeling that the pseudo science of nutrition (not talking about the researchers but the food and lifestyle artists on social media) makes it very hard to find out what a good diet is and what isnt.

Meat ? Bad unless it isnt. Dairy and Eggs ? Even worse except when it isnt. Vegan/vegetarian nutrition ? The worst except, you guessed it, when it isnt.

If you dont believe me just google any food and try to find out a general consensus about it. A lot of these sites talk about facts without sources, use terms like "toxins" without going into detail about what exactly they are etc.pp.

Thoughts ?

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Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes "calories in calories out" theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the "measure your intake and exercise" crowd)

Exercise is a bad way to increase calories out, because it's just too efficient. The conversion is something like 1 mile run = 1 tbsp peanut butter.

And people almost always overestimate how much they've burnt, and often eat more to compensate.

Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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> The next time you tuck into a protein rich dinner, it may be a good idea to hold off on the sugary drinks.

For 300,000 of human existence except the past few decades, humans drank no sugar-sweetened drinks.

It is always a good idea to hold off on sugary drinks.

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