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Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Installed. Run. First screen: Select your language. English already selected. Hit "Next". Nothing happens. No apparent way of actually selecting a language or proceeding. Uninstalled.

Give it the time to connect to the network...

Look at the bar at the bottom

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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I work on OpenBazaar and I'm happy to answer questions. This website links to the current version of OpenBazaar, but we're just about to launch a completely new version, which you can read about here: https://medium.com/openbazaarproject/openbazaar-2-0-p2p-trad... The 2.0 is built with Go and uses IPFS. It's open source and we welcome any developers into the project: https://github.com/OpenBazaar/openbazaar-go

Are you concerned at all about legal ramifications of OpenBazaar? It seems like if you guys succeed, you're going to have to deal with lots of illegal transactions. Are you able or willing to work with law enforcement in these cases?

They have to tread very, very carefully here. I seem to remember early demo screenshots with weed as a sample product. Not exactly a good call.

There's a reason all the piracy tools show things like Big Buck Bunny downloading, playing, etc. You may want the illegal uses to be present on the service - I don't blame them I like the anarchic feeling of it and the lack of regulation that is possible in the system, it's beautiful in a way - but you can't go around advertising it for law breaking purposes, condoning that kind of thing will just get you screwed too.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Chris If I understood the docs correctly, openbazaar 1.0 server is written in Python but since it's release the team has worked on V2 in Go. I'd really appreciate learning the motivation for the migration to Go and think others may as well. Go programs are faster than Python programs but lo and behold is a viable v1 - a server whose performance may have been good enough? Please, enlighten!

1.0 is a bit of an MVP. While there's tons of room for optimization, Go is still much faster. That plus the fact that the main IPFS codebase is written in Go were the main considerations.

Thanks for the response! So the choice wasn't driven as much by actual performance issues, that might have been solved with refactoring, re-engineering, or simply running through pypy. The catalyst was the adoption of an IPFS library written in Go.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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OpenBazaar isn't a darknet market. It's a decentralised peer-to-peer market.

If people are getting crack from it, does it matter what type of market it is? People are saying this is where the drug trade might migrate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14828864 I think it's scary that (a) these markets are here to stay, and (b) anyone with a computer and the most basic technology skills will be able to get any hard drug they can imagine delivered right to their doorstep. Again, there's noth…

No, what is unfortunate is that we are living in a world where you can be persecuted for handling your own body and mind as you, and not some bureaucrat, see fit. What is unfortunate is that people are put daily in jail for actions where there is no victim. What is unfortunate is that people who create safe environment for drug users to buy clean hihq quality drugs from rated sellers, are serving double life or committing suicides. What is unfortunate is that majority of society thinks like you do.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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If you took a look at OpenBazaar you'd find absolutely nothing illegal for sale.

But, aren't illegal transactions at least possible under Open Bazaar? Any drug dealer could set up a store on here without any problems?

It's also possible for you to kill someone in your house. Should we be preemptively worried about it?

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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I work on OpenBazaar and I'm happy to answer questions. This website links to the current version of OpenBazaar, but we're just about to launch a completely new version, which you can read about here: https://medium.com/openbazaarproject/openbazaar-2-0-p2p-trad... The 2.0 is built with Go and uses IPFS. It's open source and we welcome any developers into the project: https://github.com/OpenBazaar/openbazaar-go

It won't let me buy anything from any of the vendors I've tried It says: "The vendor's server has rejected the purchase request. This may be due to a connection issue. Check your purchase data, such as quantity and Bitcoin refund address, to make sure it is valid. If it is valid, try again in a few seconds. Reason: vendor rejected contract". I've also gotten " Reason: unable to reach vendor" Has anyone successfully b…

OpenBazaar never worked for me either. The only time I actually bought something, the seller laughed me off and didn't post anything. Messages to "moderator" were ignored.

Since using the software is painful (it's an Electron app after all), I gave up.

I think that has been the experience of everyone that actually tried it more than once

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Why not consult UPS tracking as an oracle for that case?

Because UPS tracking is limited to determining whether UPS delivered a package. It can't say who the package was sent from, who it was delivered to, or what was inside.

yes but this is also a problem in the real world right? I could order anything, sign the package once it arrived, and then complain that the box was empty. With or without a smart contract, it is hard/impossible to prove I'm lying or not.

So I assume this case is mostly taken care of by insurance, not the platform fee? Or I guess that's what the platform fee is for?

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Firstly, there are absolutely no illegal drugs currently being sold on OpenBazaar. It's almost exclusively novelty items at the moment. Secondly, if Alice wants to sell crack, and Bob wants to buy it, I don't see why you or I or anybody else has the right to stand in the middle and say that's not allowed. I accept that you think it's not good for Alice and Bob to be able to transact however they like, but you must ac…

No one is arguing that Alice and Bob should be prevented from engaging in good ol' American trade. We're arguing that when drugs are ubiquitous -- as easy to access as pushing a button -- you'll spawn far more addicts than would have otherwise been created. When an addict's life is destroyed by these horrific tools of pleasure we've created, are they going to take solace in the fact that they were able to use technol…

Doesn't that mean we should also shut down casinos, for example?

I don't think the answer has ever been "make it so people can't buy the stuff", because that can't work. Instead, I believe that education, quality control, and help towards addicts would work much better.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Firstly, there are absolutely no illegal drugs currently being sold on OpenBazaar. It's almost exclusively novelty items at the moment. Secondly, if Alice wants to sell crack, and Bob wants to buy it, I don't see why you or I or anybody else has the right to stand in the middle and say that's not allowed. I accept that you think it's not good for Alice and Bob to be able to transact however they like, but you must ac…

Does the same logic apply if Alice wants to sell Bob a human being?

You can't sell something you don't own.
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