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Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by StavrosK »

Frogolocalypse wrote: post #172
StavrosK wrote: post #158

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Do you know when this UASF stuff is happening, or if it has already happened, who won, or what looks like it's going to win? It's been a confusing few days...

> It's been a confusing few days... It certainly has. Not sure what your knowledge is, but the main discussion re scalability in bitcoin recently has been about the activation of segregated witness (i.e. segwit) There's still one hurdle to get over over the next few days called UESF (User Enforced Soft Fork) that miners have SAID they agree to. The method for this is a thing called BIP91, and it will orphan off block…

I see, thank you! Pretty confusing goings-on, but your explanation makes them clear, thanks!

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by tylersmith »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #152
programmarchy wrote: post #150

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Why not consult UPS tracking as an oracle for that case?

Because UPS tracking is limited to determining whether UPS delivered a package. It can't say who the package was sent from, who it was delivered to, or what was inside.

This is what Dr Sanchez on our team calls the "box of rocks" problem. You _could_ potentially use a lack of delivery to automatically refund the buyer or something but automatic payout to the vendor is harder.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by detaro »

Frogolocalypse wrote: post #180
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #171

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After digging into some Reddit comments, this reply appears to downplay the extent to which you're directly facilitating the darknet market migration. https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/6oifak/is_it_po... "Well if the devs want massive adoption and 2.0 is functional then getting it to work on tails in the next 3 months will get them that." "If someone would post an eli18 walkthrough on how to config tails s…

Another american who has this baffling belief that things that aren't given permission by the government are illegal. Which, in a country full of guns, is kind of interesting. By the rationale you just espoused, the gun manufacturers should be held accountable for the actions of their users. How about you start focusing on what THEY are doing that is supposedly 'illegal', instead of relying upon insinuation and surve…

The parent doesn't mention anything about the devs doing anything "illegal" or that they should be "held accountable" for it by the state, so I'm not sure why you argue as if they do.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

detaro wrote: post #183
Frogolocalypse wrote: post #180

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Another american who has this baffling belief that things that aren't given permission by the government are illegal. Which, in a country full of guns, is kind of interesting. By the rationale you just espoused, the gun manufacturers should be held accountable for the actions of their users. How about you start focusing on what THEY are doing that is supposedly 'illegal', instead of relying upon insinuation and surve…

The parent doesn't mention anything about the devs doing anything "illegal" or that they should be "held accountable" for it by the state, so I'm not sure why you argue as if they do.

Yep. Once Tor is integrated and people start using it for darknet-type activities, it won't be possible to hold anyone accountable or to shut it down. It's decentralized. Personally I find the implications pretty fascinating.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

Iranibangbang wrote: post #177
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #171

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After digging into some Reddit comments, this reply appears to downplay the extent to which you're directly facilitating the darknet market migration. https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/6oifak/is_it_po... "Well if the devs want massive adoption and 2.0 is functional then getting it to work on tails in the next 3 months will get them that." "If someone would post an eli18 walkthrough on how to config tails s…

You're wrong that they are supporting illegal dark type uses. The team has background in the American intelligence community. Some people are saying their aim is to push toward a backdoored or monitorable supposed darknet.

The team has background in the American intelligence community.

For what it's worth, there is a Forbes article that supports this claim: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/03/16/openb...

"Brian Hoffman, a former lead associate for cybersecurity at Edward Snowden's old employer Booz Allen Hamilton"

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by Frogolocalypse »

detaro wrote: post #183
Frogolocalypse wrote: post #180

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Another american who has this baffling belief that things that aren't given permission by the government are illegal. Which, in a country full of guns, is kind of interesting. By the rationale you just espoused, the gun manufacturers should be held accountable for the actions of their users. How about you start focusing on what THEY are doing that is supposedly 'illegal', instead of relying upon insinuation and surve…

The parent doesn't mention anything about the devs doing anything "illegal" or that they should be "held accountable" for it by the state, so I'm not sure why you argue as if they do.

So things are illegal unless you can prove they aren't?

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by detaro »

Frogolocalypse wrote: post #186
detaro wrote: post #183

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The parent doesn't mention anything about the devs doing anything "illegal" or that they should be "held accountable" for it by the state, so I'm not sure why you argue as if they do.

So things are illegal unless you can prove they aren't?

As far as I can tell, nobody here has made any claim like that, so I have no idea what you are trying to argue, sorry.

Re: Open Bazaar – decentralized Bitcoin marketplace

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Post by mhluongo »

Frogolocalypse wrote: post #174
mhluongo wrote: post #76

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Right now it's with ShapeShift, but down the road you could use cross-chain swaps to accomplish something similar

> but down the road you could use cross-chain swaps aka the holy grail in crypto.

Hah fair enough, though with Lightning's progress we're closer than ever
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