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Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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yellowpagesunited.com is down now. Anyone with a mirror of the logo?

Take out the https:// and you're redirected to http://www.bizyellow.com/

What's technically interesting:

http://www.bizyellow.com/ looks at first view like a .NET app (.aspx) but after a closer look it's definitly a Ruby on Rails app.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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Importantly: 1) Hashrocket has absolutely nothing to do with the criminal complaint 2) In the USA people are innocent until proven guilty Now if you're interested in this case, read on... There are hundreds of independent yellow pages (including Yellow Pages United) that legally use the term Yellow Pages and the "walking fingers" logo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Pages My partners have been doing direct mail…

1) Hashrocket has absolutely nothing to do with the criminal complaint

If the people named in the complaint are executives of Hashrocket, then it has something to do with Hashrocket, however indirectly.

2) In the USA people are innocent until proven guilty

In the US criminal justice system, there is a presumption of innocence. That doesn't have much to do with whether one is actually guilty or innocent, in the USA or anywhere else.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take out the https:// and you're redirected to http://www.bizyellow.com/

What's technically interesting: http://www.bizyellow.com/ looks at first view like a .NET app (.aspx) but after a closer look it's definitly a Ruby on Rails app.

http://isitrails.com/ says it's "very sure" that bizyellow.com is a Rails app.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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Mark Smith funded and funds Hashrocket. Hashrocket isn't profitable without Mark Smith. If Obie had no knowledge of this scam then I feel sorry for him and this situation. I guess "The Rails Maturity Model", the Hashrocket Way and BizConf includes taking scam money and pretending to be profitable.

> I feel sorry for him and this situation.

I do too.

>I guess "The Rails Maturity Model", the Hashrocket Way and BizConf includes taking scam money and pretending to be profitable.

Snarky, unnecessary, and unfounded.

This has nothing to do with Rails, and probably just as little with how Obie ran the company.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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Importantly: 1) Hashrocket has absolutely nothing to do with the criminal complaint 2) In the USA people are innocent until proven guilty Now if you're interested in this case, read on... There are hundreds of independent yellow pages (including Yellow Pages United) that legally use the term Yellow Pages and the "walking fingers" logo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Pages My partners have been doing direct mail…

I don't know the details but what the article is reporting seems pretty bad. Why did that person receive an invoice from your partners' business book, if he was not signed up for it?

Or are going to say that it was not really an invoice, but an advertisement? In my opinion small business owners do not usually confuse an advertisement with an invoice, or otherwise they would not stay in business for long.

So if that person says it was an invoice, it probably looked like one.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's technically interesting: http://www.bizyellow.com/ looks at first view like a .NET app (.aspx) but after a closer look it's definitly a Ruby on Rails app.

http://isitrails.com/ says it's "very sure" that bizyellow.com is a Rails app.

I know, it's my app ;)

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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I don't really care if a company wants to be "hip" or whatever, but title's like "Chief Morale Officer, in charge of alchohol and fun activities" just make you look like idiots.

Eh, not really. Companies like Zappos has titles like this, but nobody thinks the author of "Delivering Happiness" is an idiot.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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post #46
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://isitrails.com/ says it's "very sure" that bizyellow.com is a Rails app.

I know, it's my app ;)

Bwaw ha ha! I knew I'd seen your name somewhere before. Just couldn't place it. Great job on isitrails.com.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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Importantly: 1) Hashrocket has absolutely nothing to do with the criminal complaint 2) In the USA people are innocent until proven guilty Now if you're interested in this case, read on... There are hundreds of independent yellow pages (including Yellow Pages United) that legally use the term Yellow Pages and the "walking fingers" logo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Pages My partners have been doing direct mail…

I can't wait for Obie's next book, "The Jails Way"

seriously though, if you associate and start businesses with people who send fake invoices for deceptive services like this, you are probably a sleazeball.

even if you do have glamour shots of yourself all over your webpage.

Re: Hashrocket execs (not Obie) charged in $425 million mail fraud case

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Importantly: 1) Hashrocket has absolutely nothing to do with the criminal complaint 2) In the USA people are innocent until proven guilty Now if you're interested in this case, read on... There are hundreds of independent yellow pages (including Yellow Pages United) that legally use the term Yellow Pages and the "walking fingers" logo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Pages My partners have been doing direct mail…

I can't wait for Obie's next book, "The Jails Way" seriously though, if you associate and start businesses with people who send fake invoices for deceptive services like this, you are probably a sleazeball. even if you do have glamour shots of yourself all over your webpage.

I can't wait for the next book to be titled, "The Rails Three Way"
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