This is an insightful documentary on this topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5IwwnP5e78
China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
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Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#142The most weird news I have heard from Xinjiang is when Chinese authorities forced Muslims to dance on streets - https://tribune.com.pk/story/871879/suppressing-religious-fr...
There are so many errors in this article in the first few paragraphs that I have trouble believing any of it, even if the story itself is believable from what I know of Chinese religious oppression. First, Xinjiang is in the west, not east. Second, Uyghurs in China do not speak Turkish. They speak Uighur, a Turkic language, but its orthography is Arabic and forced Chinese. It looks nothing like Turkish, which uses a…
They mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Turkestan and article states : "Uighur Muslims are a Turkish-speaking minority of eight million in the northwestern Xinjiang region". For language you are correct but from my point of view it is nitpicking, same like 10m and 8m. Important parts are, they do not speak same language as Chinese and in country of China group in up to ten millions is still minority which can be oppressed by central government. For comparison Sweden or Portugal is around 10m people, which gives me nice point of refenece.
Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#143The most weird news I have heard from Xinjiang is when Chinese authorities forced Muslims to dance on streets - https://tribune.com.pk/story/871879/suppressing-religious-fr...
There are so many errors in this article in the first few paragraphs that I have trouble believing any of it, even if the story itself is believable from what I know of Chinese religious oppression. First, Xinjiang is in the west, not east. Second, Uyghurs in China do not speak Turkish. They speak Uighur, a Turkic language, but its orthography is Arabic and forced Chinese. It looks nothing like Turkish, which uses a…
Turkish was written with an Arabic-based alphabet until 1920s. The move to Latin alphabet for Turkic languages is new, and not yet universal. For example, Azerbaijani, the closest Turkic language to Turkish (so much that Turkish and Azerbaijani are mutually comprehensible) is written in Latin alphabet in the Republic of Azerbaijan but in Arabic alphabet in Iran.
Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#144The most weird news I have heard from Xinjiang is when Chinese authorities forced Muslims to dance on streets - https://tribune.com.pk/story/871879/suppressing-religious-fr...
Why do we keep buying things from this disgusting country, China?
Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#145China has had some bad experiences with foreign religions. Back in the 1800's some guy who failed his civil servant exam started going around telling people that he was Jesus Christ's younger brother. Next thing you know, he has his own kingdom, starts a war, and tens of millions are dead.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
The high-estimate of total dead from the Taiping Rebellion exceeds World War 2. Crazy
Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think forced, public smartphone surveillance is absolutely worse than secret surveillance, in two ways. First, it has a strong chilling effect on free speech and free thought. In a country where the rule of law is not well-established, you can never be sure what the local officials consider "bad" speech. As a result, you keep your mouth shut more often, just in case. This takes a psychological toll on everyone surv…
a strong chilling effect is free speech leading to everyone you know 'disappearing'.
If someone is jailed for their speech, I wouldn't call it free. But perhaps I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?
Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#147The most weird news I have heard from Xinjiang is when Chinese authorities forced Muslims to dance on streets - https://tribune.com.pk/story/871879/suppressing-religious-fr...
this is absolutely sick. Why has this never reached the mainstream news?
I read the NYT and Economist regularly, and have seen numerous articles about this minority and area over the past couple of years.
Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#148First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Muslims—and everyone rejoiced in their unity of hating them together.
people don't enjoy getting run over en masse by trucks or having their children decapitated by 'enthusiastic' religious adherents.
Did you know that the Nazis hyped up Jewish criminals as a way of demonizing all of them based on the actions of a few?
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Always one for facile comparisons between China and developed entities aren’t we paradite? Why are you attacking him rather than the argument? > Perhaps change it up so your work isn’t immediately recognizable? Even sounding the least bit neutral would probably be enough to blend in. You don't sound very impartial either.
Because the argument is already being attacked, and I’ve already attacked their previous ones with no change on their part I’m obviously not attempting to be impartial considering I’ve directly called them out by name, but I’m glad you’ve noticed the tone of my comment awkarddaturtle.
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Re: China forces one of its Muslim minorities to install spyware on their phones
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are so many errors in this article in the first few paragraphs that I have trouble believing any of it, even if the story itself is believable from what I know of Chinese religious oppression. First, Xinjiang is in the west, not east. Second, Uyghurs in China do not speak Turkish. They speak Uighur, a Turkic language, but its orthography is Arabic and forced Chinese. It looks nothing like Turkish, which uses a…
Turkish was written with an Arabic-based alphabet until 1920s. The move to Latin alphabet for Turkic languages is new, and not yet universal. For example, Azerbaijani, the closest Turkic language to Turkish (so much that Turkish and Azerbaijani are mutually comprehensible) is written in Latin alphabet in the Republic of Azerbaijan but in Arabic alphabet in Iran.
Yep! Orthography is hugely political for Central Asian languages, so I am really disappointed that this article would make such a glaring mistake, among others. It does not seem very well researched.