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Same intention, different approaches, move on to more interesting topics. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14823596
How is pervasive, compulsive surveillance at all comparable to redirected search queries for extremist content by a private business?
I guess a better analogy would be:
"How is negotiation comparable to shooting?"
"When they were used to free the hostage."
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> "Islamic extremism" In Xinjiang region, the concern is more about separatism , which is not terrorism, and which should be a right of any group. > "Anyone criticizing China while permitting their own country to do worse is an hypocrite" One can be critical of their own government while still being critical of others. Even in US, ordinary people don't have much control over the government, in particular over the sec…
> separatism ... which should be a right of any group wait. how would that work? seriously. would that apply to Texans and Californians who want to secede from the US? what about: * a sect of highly conservative polygamists in the American West? * the Michigan Militia? * extreme American Communist party members? * David Koresh followers? * a population of immigrants from country X who now live in country Y? * ethnic…
Answer: "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." -US Declaration of Independence
Depending on the specific case, it would be up to people to determine whether these conditions have been met.
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The west has been trying to do that for decades. Things just get worse and worse. What do you propose?
The West does not currently have much of a problem with violent separatism. Maybe someone got into a bar fight over Catalan independence or Brexit, but all recent conflicts I'm aware of were relatively peaceful. If you compare this to the situation in Northern Ireland, I'd say things have gotten much better.
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The West does not currently have much of a problem with violent separatism. Maybe someone got into a bar fight over Catalan independence or Brexit, but all recent conflicts I'm aware of were relatively peaceful. If you compare this to the situation in Northern Ireland, I'd say things have gotten much better.
yougoslavian people will beg to differ. Civil war in a european country leading to the partition of the country into multiple states based on ethnic and religious criteria happened in europe just 25 years ago.
Same intention, different approaches, move on to more interesting topics. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14823596
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14763085
Your response to me back then seemed in good faith, if a bit naive. This continued trend of blatant propagandizing is a bit worrying though.
Perhaps change it up so your work isn’t immediately recognizable? Even sounding the least bit neutral would probably be enough to blend in.
Same intention, different approaches, move on to more interesting topics. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14823596
Always one for facile comparisons between China and developed entities aren’t we paradite? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14763085 Your response to me back then seemed in good faith, if a bit naive. This continued trend of blatant propagandizing is a bit worrying though. Perhaps change it up so your work isn’t immediately recognizable? Even sounding the least bit neutral would probably be enough to blend in.
Same intention, different approaches, move on to more interesting topics. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14823596
Always one for facile comparisons between China and developed entities aren’t we paradite? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14763085 Your response to me back then seemed in good faith, if a bit naive. This continued trend of blatant propagandizing is a bit worrying though. Perhaps change it up so your work isn’t immediately recognizable? Even sounding the least bit neutral would probably be enough to blend in.
Why are you attacking him rather than the argument?
> Perhaps change it up so your work isn’t immediately recognizable? Even sounding the least bit neutral would probably be enough to blend in.
You don't sound very impartial either.
The most weird news I have heard from Xinjiang is when Chinese authorities forced Muslims to dance on streets - https://tribune.com.pk/story/871879/suppressing-religious-fr...
This disgusts me. It's like those people are being dehumanized like the Jews. Maybe this is part of a wider conspiracy so when another another oil, resource grabbing led war is started. People will say and do nothing to stop it because people have sub-consciously brainwashed.
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Terrorism is so easily thrown around as a blanket term these days. As many others have pointed out, the motivation seems to be more separatist than religious.
Separatist movements fit well with a traditional definition of terrorism, though (something like "politically motivated violence by non-state entities", maybe confined to violence against civilians). Purely religious terrorism was the exception until recently.