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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by wyoh »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I used to have a work flow where I opened around 100 tabs. I was "curating" pictures for my Tumblr blog by opening tabs from Feedly and then deciding to reblog it or not. At the end I had around 80-90 pages with a large picture opened. Firefox has no problem with this but Chrome was struggling after 35 tabs. Now I don't do this anymore because I wrote a web extension to reblog directly from inside Feedly.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by bigbugbag »

huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

The fun part is that opera did this and did it better years ago, but sadly it came to stop the day they decided quarterly profits were the new priority and switched to become a google chrome skin.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by bigbugbag »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I have had about 100-200 tabs open in my browsers for years.

The reason being that session management is terrible or non existent and bookmarks is horribly broken.

With firefox I have a bunch of extension and groups my tabs by activities. I guess some power users do so because it's more convenient and practical than having to remember one or two dozen URLs and reopen them when coming back to an activity later on.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by bigbugbag »

nxc18 wrote: post #245
atombender wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

Edge has this since Creators update. Unfortunately, Edge is pretty bad in ways that actually matter (UI responsiveness, reliability).

Edge is useless outside of recent windows version.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by keithpeter »

ianamartin wrote: post #387
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

This is not just for power users. My mother is about the most opposite of power user that there is. But she constantly has hundreds of tabs open when I go to visit her and do my obligatory tech support duties. She uses tabs like bookmarks, even though she bookmarks everything. I've tried to coach her on working with the bookmarks better, but she has her system, and she's sticking to it. And to be fair, I don't know h…

OK, I'll put my hand up here. I bookmark sites reflexively, probably a hangover from the days before Google when things were harder to find and we had dial up that you paid for by the minute.

Bookmarks | Show All Bookmarks then keywords in the 'Search Bookmarks' is useful.

I have actually set the bookmark.html file as my start page. I can then use 'find in page' if I can remember any keywords about the page I am looking for, or just scroll down.

Ms Martin Senior needs to have her bookmarks backed up as well or there will be gnashing of teeth at some point in the future.

Imagery fine!

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by bigbugbag »

joonoro wrote: post #243
atombender wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

Firefox used to have this feature, but it was removed. You need to install this extension now: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups-pa...

Nope, it didn't have that feature, though it had some basic foundations. It got removed as several others firefox features for no good reasons.

There's also tab groups and tab groups helper but those are about to disappear[1] and make firefox useless for this use case.

[1]: http://fasezero.com/

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by bigbugbag »

kenrick95 wrote: post #263
joonoro wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox used to have this feature, but it was removed. You need to install this extension now: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups-pa...

Unfortunately, this extension, too will soon die when Firefox no longer supports legacy addons. I think there is a new Firefox experiment that behaves somewhat like this: https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/containers

According to its developer it is the only of his extensions that may have a shot at surviving webextensions, though requires a rewrite and dropping of some of the useful features.

  Tab Groups has a shot. I took on this project after it was
  decided to remove the built-in Tab Groups from Firefox, as
  I thought it could be a good and fun learning experience;
  it hasn't been, if anything it's been stressful and
  time-consuming. I don't really use groups outside of my
  development profile, with my browsing habits I only find
  them useful to a point, they're helpful for my
  development/coding workflow, but I've used them maybe twice
  in my main profile during normal browsing.
  
  Its core functionality and basic workflow probably can be
  made into a WebExtension, but only after an almost complete
  rewrite of the code (with some major work done on Firefox's
  side as well!), and still stripped down of at least some of
  its features. Many of the new groups features I've wanted
  to add since the beginning are impossible though, for the
  same reason as I mentioned above: they either don't fit the
  scope of what can be allowed through WebExtensions or their
  implementation would be far too complex to do on my own.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by clentaminator »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

> What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

Have you ever used CloudFormation?

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by akaralar »

cf wrote: post #400

So one challenge I face is that many of my tabs are for web content that isn't always there. Do any of these extensions like Great Suspender, Session Buddy, etc actually let me save the webpage as it is and then let me choose to refetch it as necessary?

not exactly what you're looking for but pinboard.in archival account does this: https://pinboard.in/upgrade/

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by bigbugbag »

Manishearth wrote: post #280
kenrick95 wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, this extension, too will soon die when Firefox no longer supports legacy addons. I think there is a new Firefox experiment that behaves somewhat like this: https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/containers

IIRC https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/?s... is a replacement Container tabs is totally different, that's about basically having multiple profiles in one window. E.g you can have the work container logged into your work email and work stuff, and your personal container logged in to your personal email and personal stuff, and they don't know about each other. Like incognito, but persistent and…

I didn't know of this one, is its tab management any good ? As in how do you move tabs around groups, open/duplicat/close tabs and groups ?

The 'simplified' in its name makes me doubtful it has any of the advanced features I need.

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