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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by com2kid »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

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I can easily have over 100 tabs of just Reddit open.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by peterwwillis »

ilaksh wrote: post #43

There are a lot of people who use tabs as bookmarks. Seems like a good way to keep the RAM industry going strong. Someone once told me (seriously) "I need at least 128 GB of RAM otherwise I can't keep my tabs open." But does everything you were interested in over the last X weeks or months really need to be loaded up? No, and if you use it like that then it can't preload stuff. I think the main lesson is that bookmar…

I think the main lesson is web browsers are bloated as hell now.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by the8472 »

Koshkin wrote: post #74

Can anyone offer an explanation of why should not tabs be managed by the window manager? (My understanding is that this question is independent from how the particular application would choose to control the contents of a tab - whether directly, or through a separate thread, or by spawning a child process.)

For that you need a good window manager that supports tabbing, tiling, floating, grouped resizes etc. I.e. something like i3.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by technojunkie »

rndmize wrote: post #33

This is nice to hear. I use Firefox as my default browser with the tree-style tabs add-on, and just yesterday I replaced ABP with uBlock and Ghostery with Disconnect out of frustration with how slow things were going (~30-50 tabs open). The slow startup time hasn't been helping (come on, its not even loading the tabs until I click them, what's taking so long?)

Hint: uBlock Origin already includes filters for Disconnect if you go to the settings

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by the8472 »

wnevets wrote: post #70

What made it so much worse over time?

Things that need to be initialized per tab. Lazy-loaded tabs were till backed by about:blank content window which get replaced with the actual content once you open the tab. And with that about:blank comes overhead, which is fairly small for a single tab but it adds up in large numbers.

The change is that now the tab item does not have an associated content window at all until you visit it.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by imcoconut »

jcrben wrote: post #265
atombender wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

I'm pretty happy with OneTab https://www.one-tab.com/

same, has helped tremendously

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by quickben »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

Sort of like a temporary bookmark. I have stuff to do, and things to finish reading, but I don't want to bookmark them. So they sit in tabs waiting.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by sam4ritan »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

Boredom or laziness. On my mobile firefox, i sometimes don't close tabs for months

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by cortesoft »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I like having my history for a lot of things, so I can hit the back button and forward button a lot.
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