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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Wow. I've been getting more and more frustrated with how poorly Chrome handles even a moderately large number of tabs (~150), and it sounds like my savior is going to be ... Firefox. Huh. Wouldn't have guessed it, but I'll totally take it. I have a nice extension for Chrome called Quick Tabs that gives me a searchable list of my open tabs and makes it easy to find things I have open... anyone know which of the severa…

Tabhunter; hugo search; All tabs helper;

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

Yes but I have found that if you "open in new tab" then it loads the page even though it is in the background. It should do as it does as startup but doesn't.

This, exactly. I'd love to open half a dozen tabs pointing at videos, without having to wait for each one to load and then quickly pause it.

(Related: I'd also really like to middle-click video annotations to open them in a tab. No, I don't want to replace the current video with them.)

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

#73

I've been considering switching to Firefox due to these performance improvements, but the one feature that's always missing is for the location bar to autocomplete terms from other sources such as Wikipedia. Is there some add-on I can install that can fix this? Safari is brilliant here. If you enter something in Safari's location bar, it will suggest Wikipedia and other search suggestions right away [1]. I use this f…

DuckDuckGo does a good job of this. So it's not exactly suggestions in your search bar , but it's damn close. Also you can configure FF to have selectable search tools including Wikipedia and Stackoverflow.

But I am specifically asking about suggestions in the search bar.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

#74
Can anyone offer an explanation of why should not tabs be managed by the window manager? (My understanding is that this question is independent from how the particular application would choose to control the contents of a tab - whether directly, or through a separate thread, or by spawning a child process.)

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

#75

A quick tangent to plug my method for paring down open tabs when it gets out of control: I create a document! Personally I use Google Docs, but you could use a wiki or MS Word or many other things. The point isn't the technology, it's that when you have a whole slew of tabs open, and you feel the urge to keep them open, it's a strong sign that your mind is trying to gather info about a topic. Putting it into a docume…

I just pocket them and then close them. Once pocketed, I can easily go back and find them with full text search.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

#76

Wow. I've been getting more and more frustrated with how poorly Chrome handles even a moderately large number of tabs (~150), and it sounds like my savior is going to be ... Firefox. Huh. Wouldn't have guessed it, but I'll totally take it. I have a nice extension for Chrome called Quick Tabs that gives me a searchable list of my open tabs and makes it easy to find things I have open... anyone know which of the severa…

It's unfortunate because back in ~2010 I used to open over 1,000 tabs in Chrome at a time. It's very useful when doing research: each window represents a topic, and each topic can spawn 30+ tabs. Nowadays Chrome keels over at around 150, like you say. It also leaks memory like a sieve, so if your hard drive is anywhere close to full you'll end up with a lovely OS X popup saying all your running programs have been fro…

Maybe the Web is as much to blame as Chrome.

Average webpage size has ballooned in the past 10 or so years.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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It's unfortunate because back in ~2010 I used to open over 1,000 tabs in Chrome at a time. It's very useful when doing research: each window represents a topic, and each topic can spawn 30+ tabs. Nowadays Chrome keels over at around 150, like you say. It also leaks memory like a sieve, so if your hard drive is anywhere close to full you'll end up with a lovely OS X popup saying all your running programs have been fro…

There has got to be a better solution to this problem than having 1,000 tabs open in a web browser. That sounds like an absolute nightmare.

I'm not sure that there is. Bookmarks don't work as well because you can't preserve a session as easily. For example, I can just create a new tab group for a project that I want to work on, and then it will stay in the background until I have the resources to work on it.

I don't know about other people, but I find it really useful to research a project and then leave it alone for a month or two before working on it. When I do this I often have a better perspective on the project than if I were to just jump in. With my setup, when I return to it my session is just as I left it; making it very easy to get up to speed.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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My biggest frustration with Firefox is that you can't 'Tab to Search' as you can in chrome. Every time I attempt to switch to FF the lack of this feature just kills my productivity and I end up switching back.

So wish this was possible.

Ref: https://www.chromium.org/tab-to-search

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

#80

Whut? It didn't get any faster, it's just more aggressively lazy loaded now. This is breaking the very use case of people who have 100+ tabs; they want stuff to be there when they click on it.

Things have been lazy loaded on startup since Firefox 13: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711193

but the feature itself is much older.

The problem was that the xul/xbl code creating the tabbar was still doing a lot of work for the not-yet-loaded tabs.

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