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The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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I stay here because I've not found any place on Earth that's as good for working in technology. And, every year, this area creeps even further ahead. It's just an amazing place. So, I tolerate the pain for the opportunity to enjoy my career to the fullest.

Odd, I find the bay rather stagnate. It's constantly chasing last weeks fad and a few years behind cutting edge research.

Where do you live?

Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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"Neighborhood character is what they cited when they kicked out Willy Mayes." I see. Because people have used this complaint to do bad things, it is therefore always incorrect. Got it.

It's fundamentally about turning public space into a private club. Fine. Just don't expect me to be happy about paying for roads and sewers in places that keep poor people out.

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Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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> The bay area is a cultureless void Would you please not post slurs like this here? It's pure flamebait and leads to worse.

You're really proving him wrong by calling that a "slur"... Seems very odd to me that a mod would find it worth his time to tsk tsk at someone making a commonly held observation about the Bay Area but is seemingly fine with the elitist opinions that are all over HN about other parts of the country

Actually it's really simple. You can't post national or ethnic or regional slurs like that and we tell people so whenever we see them doing it. The issue isn't defending the Bay Area, it's defending HN against the usual internet poisons.

> seemingly fine with

That's a non sequitur. A comment going unchided doesn't mean moderators are ok with it—the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. Relative to what gets posted here, the set of comments we see has measure zero.

Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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The simple fact is that there are a lot of people who need to live in the Bay Area. Wishing people would just leave is what the NIMBY organizations have been trying for decades. It doesn't work, and it inflicts undue hardship on everyone who wasn't one of the lucky ones who bought in early. The only thing that does work is confronting the fact that a lot of people need to live here and encouraging housing supply to m…

The economic need will, of course, compensate for higher housing costs by providing higher compensation, which ultimately makes housing costs a moot issue for anyone providing value to the local economy. As someone from outside of the region, what reasons necessitate that a lot of people be in the Bay Area that is beyond the economic need?

anyone providing value to the local economy

Nice to see that all the people who actually make the city function -- so that those high-paid "value providers" can live there and get work done there -- are completely written off in your analysis.

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You're really proving him wrong by calling that a "slur"... Seems very odd to me that a mod would find it worth his time to tsk tsk at someone making a commonly held observation about the Bay Area but is seemingly fine with the elitist opinions that are all over HN about other parts of the country

Actually it's really simple. You can't post national or ethnic or regional slurs like that and we tell people so whenever we see them doing it. The issue isn't defending the Bay Area, it's defending HN against the usual internet poisons. > seemingly fine with That's a non sequitur. A comment going unchided doesn't mean moderators are ok with it—the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. Relative to what gets…

Calling the bay area a cultureless void - which it is - isn't a 'slur' and comparing this statement to an ethnic slur is absurd and warrants an apology.

If you weren't dang it would seem like you're being deliberately argumentative. Instead I'll suggest you're being overzealous in this case.

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This is excellent opportunity for anyone who wants investment from west coast VCs but doesn't want to deal with San Francisco, Oakland or the bay area. San Francisco frequently has human feces on the sidewalk in many areas right near the city center, high housing prices and a combination of startup bros and angry hard left outrage culture folk. The bay area is a cultureless void and Oakland is still dangerous. Better…

Portland, LA, and Boulder all have the problems you listed... Also the idea that Boulder has some kind of culture that the Bay Area doesn't is laughable. Disregarding that only 100,000 people live there, I've never seen a place more homogenously populated by "rich boring white people" in my entire life. It's like an entire city of the stuff that pops up when neighborhoods gentrify.

Portland and LA are way cleaner, even at their dirtiest.

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10% is way low. SF has been negotiating for 25% and up.[1] BMR isn't just about culture and diversity. It's about teachers and service industry workers and everyone a functioning city needs. The gap is so large between market rate and affordability, and there are so many richer people still wanting to move into SF, that it is likely wishful thinking that market rate development will be "enough" to solve the problem.…

BMR-renting makes sense at 25% or more. You can kick someone out in a yr. if they've started to earn more. You can rent at-cost, and not lose money like you would in a BMR sale. Wouldn't you rather be using the loan/tax subsidy to house 10 people in rentals instead of 2 in a BMR condo? Asking for 25% BMR is holding back development and the marginal number of units built in each development. 10% is good compromise for…

> teachers make 100k+

You're way off. The median annual Teacher Elementary School salary in San Francisco, CA is $69,389, as of June 28, 2017.[1]

Cities also need a large number of service industry workers that make even less than this.

[1] http://www1.salary.com/CA/San-Francisco/Teacher-Elementary-S...

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Actually it's really simple. You can't post national or ethnic or regional slurs like that and we tell people so whenever we see them doing it. The issue isn't defending the Bay Area, it's defending HN against the usual internet poisons. > seemingly fine with That's a non sequitur. A comment going unchided doesn't mean moderators are ok with it—the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. Relative to what gets…

Calling the bay area a cultureless void - which it is - isn't a 'slur' and comparing this statement to an ethnic slur is absurd and warrants an apology. If you weren't dang it would seem like you're being deliberately argumentative. Instead I'll suggest you're being overzealous in this case.

Would you please stop? What you posted was obviously a swipe. That sort of contentless putdown leads to flamewars that destroy this community. There was a nasty spat about a different region last night. It's all generic, and you just can't post like that here.

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There's not much remote work available. Those jobs are the most desirable and also the very hardest to get. In the past 10 years, i've received 100s of calls from desperate recruiters looking for Software engineers: and every single time, it's because they're looking to fill positions of companies in Palo Alto or San Francisco. Anytime, I ask them to find a position outside of the penninsula or SF, they turn up empty…

I think we're starting to see a shift. Today, as a hiring manager that hires remote workers, I have the pick-of-the-litter when it comes to talent for my team (infrastructure engineering). I can find the very best folks, people that I would have a much harder time winning when up against the FANGs (Facebook-Amazon-Netflix-Google) of the world if I was hiring in my company's SFBA home base. Having remote-friendliness…

Interesting. Where do you usually advertise remote positions, Chris?

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Portland, LA, and Boulder all have the problems you listed... Also the idea that Boulder has some kind of culture that the Bay Area doesn't is laughable. Disregarding that only 100,000 people live there, I've never seen a place more homogenously populated by "rich boring white people" in my entire life. It's like an entire city of the stuff that pops up when neighborhoods gentrify.

Did it ever occur to you that a nice, "boring," safe culture is what many people want?

Yes, it did? Boulder seems like a nice enough place to live. I was pointing out how preposterous it is to claim that the Bay Area is a "cultureless void" because of tech bros and left-wing politics and then claim that somewhere that's the absolute epitome of those things is better.
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