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Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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Funny how for the longest time now, cities and counties take more and more money from public parks citing their underuse... then when they get used, they cry out legally to stop the use.

Part of the costs of a park is cleaning up after people, its already in the budget. So is the landscaping. So is the coverage for wear and tear in general.

Its also funny to see the difference. National Park Service embraces Pokemon Go and enjoyed the increased park traffic. Austin embraced it and stores all over downtown and even government buildings had specials for Pokemon GO'ers (some public art museums here gave like 50% off admission if you were Pokemon hunting)

And the fact that so many normally sedentary people were getting up and going out and doing shit and getting exercise .. and people still went out of their way to be dicks about it... I don't get it.

Aside from Niantic's handling of the game, its PR and its issues, the pokemon GO craze was probably one of the most positive, healthy things to go viral in a very long time in the US...

Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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This seems like a place where industry self-regulation could be helpful. It could be helpful if there were an organization that would keep track of blacklisted areas (eg whitehouse lawn) and release them for all to the public, and developers in particular, for easy consumption. There would need to be some procedure for adding or removing regions from the database, eg a written request from a relevant government official acting in their capacity as an official.

I think we would see less heavy handed actions if there was a lighter touch option available.

Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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Funny how for the longest time now, cities and counties take more and more money from public parks citing their underuse... then when they get used, they cry out legally to stop the use. Part of the costs of a park is cleaning up after people, its already in the budget. So is the landscaping. So is the coverage for wear and tear in general. Its also funny to see the difference. National Park Service embraces Pokemon…

I suspect that down the line, some group of clever people will design something like Pokemon GO, but with some real meat on its bones and a long, monetized lifetime. At that point, you have to wonder if there will be a measurable hit on childhood obesity. I suspect there might be, albeit relatively small, still a measurable reduction.

Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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Funny how for the longest time now, cities and counties take more and more money from public parks citing their underuse... then when they get used, they cry out legally to stop the use. Part of the costs of a park is cleaning up after people, its already in the budget. So is the landscaping. So is the coverage for wear and tear in general. Its also funny to see the difference. National Park Service embraces Pokemon…

Wear and tear and cleaning up isn't some binary budgeted-or-not thing. You can expect a certain flow and behaviour, and something can radically change that. If some popular band said they were doing a goodbye concert and it was only available in AR at a park, you can bet it'd cause far more wear and tear in one day than they budgeted for a long time.

But trying to block the AR game is the wrong approach. They should instead implement a generic way to handle such things. Either fine people, or have some maximum occupancy rules.

Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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Funny how for the longest time now, cities and counties take more and more money from public parks citing their underuse... then when they get used, they cry out legally to stop the use. Part of the costs of a park is cleaning up after people, its already in the budget. So is the landscaping. So is the coverage for wear and tear in general. Its also funny to see the difference. National Park Service embraces Pokemon…

> And the fact that so many normally sedentary people were getting up and going out and doing shit and getting exercise

A minor nit, but Pokemon go did not increase activity levels for most players.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2016/12December/Pages/Pok%C3%A9mon-no...

http://www.bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i6270

Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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Funny how for the longest time now, cities and counties take more and more money from public parks citing their underuse... then when they get used, they cry out legally to stop the use. Part of the costs of a park is cleaning up after people, its already in the budget. So is the landscaping. So is the coverage for wear and tear in general. Its also funny to see the difference. National Park Service embraces Pokemon…

>> City officials were aghast at large numbers of individuals playing Pokemon Go who visited parks, littered, trampled grass and flowers, and stayed past park hours.

This seems like a legitimate issue though. How do you propose it be solved?

Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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This seems like a place where industry self-regulation could be helpful. It could be helpful if there were an organization that would keep track of blacklisted areas (eg whitehouse lawn) and release them for all to the public, and developers in particular, for easy consumption. There would need to be some procedure for adding or removing regions from the database, eg a written request from a relevant government offic…

Or... we place the blame on being in bad places where the blame belongs.

If I throw $10,000 over the white house fence and you jump the fence to get to it, its still YOUR problem and YOU are the one at fault for being where you arent supposed to be.

Place the blame on the people who disregard the rules, the game isnt responsible because it placed something there.

This would be like... "Hey, you shot a deer in the middle of the street downtown during deer season, i guess its not your fault that you were hunting deer in the middle of the street, there was a deer here afterall..."

Re: Judge Rules Milwaukee Flouted U.S. Constitution in Response to Pokemon Go Craze

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Funny how for the longest time now, cities and counties take more and more money from public parks citing their underuse... then when they get used, they cry out legally to stop the use. Part of the costs of a park is cleaning up after people, its already in the budget. So is the landscaping. So is the coverage for wear and tear in general. Its also funny to see the difference. National Park Service embraces Pokemon…

>> City officials were aghast at large numbers of individuals playing Pokemon Go who visited parks, littered, trampled grass and flowers, and stayed past park hours. This seems like a legitimate issue though. How do you propose it be solved?

Staying past park hours for the most part is dumb... as far as being a big deal, its not. People walking around trying to play a game after hours is no something that needs policing in the first place...

Is the game responsible for people littering? Or tramping grass (seriously, its grass... lets get over ourselves) or flowers... Is the game responsible for that, or are the people who do the wrong thing responsible? This points at the overall shifting of blame for everything that is becoming so common in our culture... put the blame on the person who does the wrong thing.

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