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Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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Password managers clear the clipboard after 1 minute or so.

there are so many clipboard listeners out there :D so the fact that you clear the clipboard doesn't really matter

If your system has been compromised and a clipboard listener is running, you may have more problems.

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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looks like a nice setup, but what about mobile?

Syncthing has a mobile app and there's an app for pass called PasswordStore[0] using OpenKeychain[1] (pgp manager). I'm not a fan of putting my private key on my mobile, but if I were, this would be a nice setup. [0]: https://github.com/zeapo/Android-Password-Store [1]: https://github.com/open-keychain/open-keychain Edit: yeah for ctmg support, probably have to hold out for something like PostMarketOS to save us.

yes, I saw this for pass, but I was referring to his setup where he uses ctmg also

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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Using this and something like rofi-pass: https://github.com/carnager/rofi-pass/ Gets me really close to the holy grail of password managers. Browser integration is possible too with PassFF: https://github.com/passff/passff

Browser integration just means you trust the plugins that provide browser integration. May not always be secure. With the recent trend of popular browser extensions being made adware after purchasing them I wouldn't always trust them. A time out clipboard is sufficient for me.

That's true, but the GP posted a link to the source of the browser plugin, which is to assume that could be avoided in this case.

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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"you can lookup which passwords he accessed" Really? What if s/he just decrypted the file themselves and had a look at the content, rather than using the convenient wrapper that a password manager provides?

Thats why password managers that do support audit logs (normally) do not provide this kind of mechanism of manually decrypting the file. The only way of accessing passwords would be through whatever interface they came up with.

The password manager of course does not "provide" such a mechanism (I imagine providing a "bypass audit logs" button would not be a popular feature). But if you know the key (the master password, or some derivative of it) and you have the ciphertext then you will be able to get the plaintext.

The only way this kind of auditing could be trusted is if all the secrets are stored on the server that implements the auditing, which is exactly the model I believe that most users of `pass` are trying to avoid.

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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With all the discussion about 1password and its decision to "more or less" move to the web and a subscription based model, I had a TODO to look at what the open source community had; especially regarding browser plug-ins, mobile apps, etc. I don't understand why a simple problem like password management, needs a subscription and a private company to create software for the problem. This post seems to have saved me th…

This does seem attractive. Any feedback on iOS client passforios it's MIT licensed? And how is sync done,itunes?

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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Looks nice. Unfortunately I would never use it for teams as it doesn't have audit logs. These are very useful in case a user is compromised - you can lookup which passwords he accessed and only change those. Same goes if the user left the team and u want to make sure all accesses are revoked.

For teams, I almost always go with Vault ( http://vaultproject.io/ )

My impression of Vault is that it is more useful for automated situations. How useful is it as a shared password manager? Do you have non-technical folks using it? And if so, how are they interacting with the vault?

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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Isn't copying the password to clipboard a vulnerability? I think a better idea would be to fill in the password through something like xdotool

It's trivial to script if you want (either by modifying the rather simple pass script itself or by wrapping around it).

Some programs support calling an external command to get a password, that's convenient (mutt and msmtp allow that for instance). I thought about integrating pass in my window manager directly but I didn't take the time to implement it yet.

pass also tries to clear the clipboard after 45 seconds.

But really if you can't trust your clibpoard what can you do? I didn't really feel a lot safer with lastpass' browser plugin.

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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With all the discussion about 1password and its decision to "more or less" move to the web and a subscription based model, I had a TODO to look at what the open source community had; especially regarding browser plug-ins, mobile apps, etc. I don't understand why a simple problem like password management, needs a subscription and a private company to create software for the problem. This post seems to have saved me th…

This does seem attractive. Any feedback on iOS client passforios it's MIT licensed? And how is sync done,itunes?

I haven't used the iOS client, but on Android the most common way to sync is to use your own Git repository accessed over SSH. You could use a private GitHub repo or one on your own server.

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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looks like a nice setup, but what about mobile?

Syncthing has a mobile app and there's an app for pass called PasswordStore[0] using OpenKeychain[1] (pgp manager). I'm not a fan of putting my private key on my mobile, but if I were, this would be a nice setup. [0]: https://github.com/zeapo/Android-Password-Store [1]: https://github.com/open-keychain/open-keychain Edit: yeah for ctmg support, probably have to hold out for something like PostMarketOS to save us.

If your phone has NFC you can use a YubiKey to store the gpg key and decrypt the password via NFC.

Re: Pass: A standard Unix password manager

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With all the discussion about 1password and its decision to "more or less" move to the web and a subscription based model, I had a TODO to look at what the open source community had; especially regarding browser plug-ins, mobile apps, etc. I don't understand why a simple problem like password management, needs a subscription and a private company to create software for the problem. This post seems to have saved me th…

> I don't understand why a simple problem like password management, needs a subscription and a private company to create software for the problem.

Speaking from recent experience migrating non technical users to 1Password, while something like pass might work well for me/the typical HN user, there's no way I'd try to get family to use it. I have found the overall 1Password user experience to be very friendly and reliable, but am still semi regularly having to help family figure out/re-explain something about how it works. They'd be lost with something like pass.

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