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The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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Seattle just passed a city income tax.

Yes. With 3 important caveats: 1) similar things have happened in the past and got overturned, because it's against the WA state constitution. A challenge has already been mounted and the income tax isn't even in effect yet. 2) There is a very very small number of Tech Employees this would actually affect as it's only a 2% of income tax on income over 250K for individual, and 500K for married couple. 3) It's only on…

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Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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A few questions for HN: 1.) Do you think San Jose will ever become "a thing" for tech startups? Is there enough to do there? There is a WeWork and San Pedro Square in downtown San Jose. Or is a waterfront view what make San Francisco, Seattle and Portland what they are? Also, if you did want to live in San Jose there where are the up and coming places for HNers to live? 2.) Cupertino used to be cherry orchards and su…

Oakland has a much better chance.

Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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How do you know they're uneducated?

He meant "uneducated" on how to behave in the tube. We would say the same thing in Europe if somebody is walking on the wrong side of escalators or similar, it doesn't mean we are literally saying they are uneducated.

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Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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What are the best alternatives to the Bay Area? Off the top of my head I'm thinking Portland, Seattle, Boston, Austin and Chicago in no particular order. The annoying part is that there's so much talent concentrated in the Bay Area that it makes going elsewhere very difficult, especially if you have specific senior talent in mind that have already established their lives there. Hopefully telepresence tech gets so goo…

Depends on what viewpoint your coming from, but from that of a software developer there are many alternatives that have been much better than San Francisco for years, especially Seattle https://www.codementor.io/blog/best-cities-software-engineer... , which is also set up for future success as it keeps building http://www.spur.org/news/2017-06-15/keep-building-oakland . Honestly, I think what we are seeing, is a shif…

There simply aren't enough engineers in Seattle, especially what I will call "startup" engineers. You're competing against Amazon, Google, and Microsoft (Facebook to a lesser degree) and the engineers in Seattle tend to prefer these established companies over startups. A large chunk of the Bay Area engineering community won't work at Amazon (Facebook and Google are another story) and came there to do startups. It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy of course.

I worked at Twitter when we opened our Seattle office and we were trying to hire maybe 50 engineers the first year. This was before the IPO, trying to hire the ideal skillset for the area (backend) and it was still hard. Meanwhile we had more than 50 offers a week in SF.

The employee base is just so much bigger, it's no wonder companies feel like they have to have offices here.

Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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The smart bet IMO is out of the US altogether. Eastern Europe (and Moscow/St Petersburg), China, Brazil, Argentina.

There are massive swaths of the US with much cheaper living than SF and better infrastructure, markets, and basic rights than Russia, China, or Brazil.

Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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I think remote working really is a part of solution to this. Perhaps augmented/virtual reality could be a good solution for some sort of application to have remote meetings with colleagues with headset in a virtual room/scenery and collaborate like that. It could be used for daily standups and other meetings and it would remove the social isolation problem of remote working and make it much more feasible. Is any AR/V…

> Is any AR/VR company working on anything like that? Probably every AR/VR company not working on games.

Which ones would that be? Of the top of my head I only know of the Hololens being developed mostly for professional use, any other AR/VR tech is all gaming, gaming, gaming.

Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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It's almost comical how overcrowded BART has gotten at rush hour. Embarcadero and Powell stations become standing room only. I live deep in the east bay, and the new apartment building going up across the street has 1 bedroom layouts starting at $2800. Something has to give, or people will simply give up.

People should give up. People should leave the area. They should move where they can find a job and a cost of living that's reasonable. The fact that people don't give up is why landlords can afford to charge $2,800/month for a 1 bedroom. You can't rent at $2,800/month if no one will sign the lease.

Many do. The cost to society is enormous.

If housing and labor markets were entirely elastic, and those are the only two factors your people need to consider, then "go away" could be a reasonable government policy. But people are more than their income and their cost of living.

Consider a recovering opioid addict making minimum wage. Medicaid for health care. They are recovering, not relapsed, because of great support from their parents, brother, and grandparents, all of whom live in (say) Oakland. If we look at the labor market and the housing market, the rational economic decision is to move away. Away from their family, the support network that keeps this person employable (and quite possibly alive). Should the whole family move? Not all jobs are everywhere. Should the brother quit Berkeley? These webs are not easily untangled.

If their support network were a Church, or a local football club, the cost would be same: leave your life behind so the Bay Area can stay suburban.

Expensive housing destroys the small, vital institutions that hold our society together by driving people apart.

Re: The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups

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The smart bet IMO is out of the US altogether. Eastern Europe (and Moscow/St Petersburg), China, Brazil, Argentina.

There are massive swaths of the US with much cheaper living than SF and better infrastructure, markets, and basic rights than Russia, China, or Brazil.

And very few people. So, this works only if you develop apps or a cloud service.
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