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Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Yes, but at the cost of running crazy air conditioning. The only time I visited Phoenix I arrived near lunchtime and was baffled to be wandering around a seemingly modern city where the streets were entirely free of people. I felt like it I was in the opening scene of a zombie movie or something. Personally speaking I've never seen much value in living by the clock if it puts you in conflict with the seasons. The not…

Sadly in Phoenix you'll find the streets entirely free of people year-round. Even when the weather is nice (Oct-Apr). I am one who walks, and often wonder if I'm just crazy when I notice I'm pretty much the only human not inside a car just walking about. I also not wonder but know it's true when I realize that hey, it really is too damn hot some days and being outside is just nuts.

Not just Arizona - this happen even right in the middle of downtown & midtown Atlanta, on streets surrounded by skyscrapers on either side.

I was visiting in April a few years ago and was really surprised how empty the sidewalks were despite the beautiful weather - you would see more people outside walking in a non-central residential neighborhood in berlin in the rain.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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I'm from Spain and this article does not represent Spain. Let me expand on this. The typical workday in Spain (no matter if you are a worker or in an office) goes from 7:00/9:00 to 15:00/18:00. This is usually a 8 hours work day (a lot of unpaid extra hours are quite typical in any IT job). Usually there are two stops before lucnh, one at the beginning of the day, usually 15 minutes to have a coffee with coworkers an…

This was not my experience at all when I visited Andalusia 6 months ago. Do different parts of Spain have different rules like this?

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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I am sorry but this is totally backwards. As a Valencian Spaniard I want to set the record straight. First, siesta is not dead. However, it is considered mostly a holiday luxury or reserved for small shops. It is normal in the extremely hot summer, after lunch we stop for 1h or so. While I do not do siesta, I would say about half+ of the people I know do it (holiday times). I would also say it is highly coupled with…

Those sandwiches were one of my favorite parts of visiting Spain. I could eat a bocadillo mixto every single day for lunch so I am not surprised it is part of Spanish culture to do so. Those breads/baguettes that every Spanish cafe seems to have was so incredibly delicious. Also, during my visit, I learned how amazing tostada con tomate y aceite is - I woke up and ate it literally every single day of my 2 week visit.

I'm really sad that I don't know how to get that amazing bread in America. Do you happen to know of a way?

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Lol, you randomly inserted a picture from one of the most famous locals here in Valencia, famous for It's enormous "bocadillos" (and good food obviously!) BTW, that's the half-size "bocadillo" there ;)

Yeah, I picked it up randomly and then realized it was "La Pascuala" (:

That place being famous due to their horse steak sandwiches, btw. ;)

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Literally nobody here takes 3 hour lunch breaks. A lot of offices have 2 hours, yeah, but this is becoming less and less common regardless. Small shops do close for 3 hours in the middle of the day, but they are open till about 9pm which is a lot more useful than being open in the middle of the day. It also should be noted that there are actually 5 meals in a spaniard's day. There's a mid-morning and late-afternoon s…

Spaniard; can confirm. 3 hour breaks are simply mandatory for small shops. In the south of the country during summer there is literally no way you can go out until... 19 or so if you don't want to die. So if shops closed then, there would be no business.

It is the same all over in southern Greece, for the same reasons. Shops in city and country close until the blasting heat of the midday sun is past, then re-open for a few hours. On the islands some would stay open past midnight, which ended up being a fun time to go shopping.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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> That's separatist propaganda: > That's separatist propaganda: That was not an opinion, it was just a plain lie. > If someone puts a region as example of something, you can expect other put examples of the opposite, specially if you live there. Nobody has put anything as example. But as I said, don't let pass an oportunity to fight your imaginary enemies. > I'm in favor of social democracy ("center"). And that's com…

The lie is in the article: it is false that the three hours pause is generalized, but a exception, except for shops. Then, in my opinion, the purpose of that lie is separatist propaganda, as I exposed in my first comment. I don't want to continue the discussion with you, as this forum is not an appropriate place for political/nationalist flamewars. You have your opinion, I have mine. Free speech means to live with pe…

> The lie is in the article: it is false that the three hours pause is generalized, but a exception, except for shops. Then, in my opinion, the purpose of that lie is separatist propaganda, as I exposed in my first comment.

The ORIGINAL Spanish article linked in that article TALKS about shops.

NBut you're so obsessed with independientist propagand that you didn't even read it. Even when I have said top you that the original article is about that.

> I don't want to continue the discussion with you, as this forum is not an appropriate place for political/nationalist flamewars.

Curious, the one starting always political flame wars is you

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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This is a non-sense of article as other spaniards have commented. The only companies that close 3 hours in the middle of the day are the shops, usually small shops. They do it because for long part of the year no one goes to the street from 2pm to 5pm, because it is so fucking hot. So instead, our culture close the shops at those times but keep them opens until 9pm or later. It is very common to see shops full of peo…

Yup, it's really crazy that you have the same timezone like Germany. The most Western point of (mainland) Spain is at -9.25 Longitude, and time would be correct at +15 Longitude, that's more than 1.5 timezones. Even Barcelona at around +2 Longitude is almost a whole timezone off.

A remind of the dictature and the world war politics that never got fixed. Franco adopted the same timezone as Germany to please Hitler.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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In the startup arena im in (USA) folks often work 8-9am till 7-8pm with half hour to hour MAX lunches. No one complains, people just burnout and move on in 1-2-3 years. No one gets overtime. It would be nice to have an open discussion with HR or whoever but its a sensitive topic, in this culture you are not "allowed" to tell how much you actually work... I guess its a "dirty little secret" but 9-5 does not exist anym…

You get the culture you tolerate. I've worked at similar companies; never again will I work in an environment that doesn't respect work life balance. I currently work at a startup that understands this.

I agree. What i see around is that most people just tolerate it and are afraid to speak up.

If you work 9 to 5 you are literally viewed as a "lazy one". During interviewing process its often a red flag if a person is not willing to put in "extra hours" unpaid.

The system is broken...

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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The lie is in the article: it is false that the three hours pause is generalized, but a exception, except for shops. Then, in my opinion, the purpose of that lie is separatist propaganda, as I exposed in my first comment. I don't want to continue the discussion with you, as this forum is not an appropriate place for political/nationalist flamewars. You have your opinion, I have mine. Free speech means to live with pe…

> The lie is in the article: it is false that the three hours pause is generalized, but a exception, except for shops. Then, in my opinion, the purpose of that lie is separatist propaganda, as I exposed in my first comment. The ORIGINAL Spanish article linked in that article TALKS about shops. NBut you're so obsessed with independientist propagand that you didn't even read it. Even when I have said top you that the o…

My opinion was about the linked article, not the original article. So don't blame me, blame the linked article author.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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As they say about Phoenix, "it's a dry heat". It's near 20% humidity during peak sunlight during the day. I've been there in really hot summer weather and I was surprised by how really high temperatures didn't feel as hot as I was expecting. To give you an idea of how much this matters, in a gentle breeze, 39.5 C at 20% humidity feels like 57.3 C at 90% humidity. People definitely don't faint within minutes in a typi…

> To give you an idea of how much this matters, in a gentle breeze, 39.5 C at 20% humidity feels like 57.3 C at 90% humidity. That cannot possibly be correct.

Humidity has a massive multiplication effect on both cold and hot temperatures.

I would take 110F dry over 80F humid any day. I would also take 10F dry over 30F humid.

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