Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
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Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
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Re: Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
#2The comments are pretty heart warming and show they definitely got something right.
Re: Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
#3Anyone care to shed some light on what precipitated this?
Re: Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
#4Shouldn't place like these be growing instead of closing down? What did they get wrong? The demand for qualified developers isn't slowing afaik.
Re: Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
#5Shouldn't place like these be growing instead of closing down? What did they get wrong? The demand for qualified developers isn't slowing afaik.
"qualified developers" is probably the key word there. These bootcamps are all trying to train out a pretty specific set of basic proficiencies. That's not to say the training can't be useful, it's just to say that they all seem to be going for the same basic web development skills, and probably the majority of companies looking to employ developers and looking for more than that, or something entirely different.
Could also just be saturation in general. This is not the first closing announcement in recent weeks.
Re: Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
#6Shouldn't place like these be growing instead of closing down? What did they get wrong? The demand for qualified developers isn't slowing afaik.
My hunch is location, iron yard had a bunch of locations in 3rd and 4th tier markets where there just aren't that many programming jobs. Even in Austin which is probably one of the better markets they had, entry level coding jobs are somewhat scarce compared to demand for them
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#7Shouldn't place like these be growing instead of closing down? What did they get wrong? The demand for qualified developers isn't slowing afaik.
I imagine that the simplest explanation is that costs end up killing these programs.
Good educators cost a decent amount of money, so if you have a high quality bar you're looking at a lot of (mostly fixed) costs. Add building rent + admin costs.
Public schooling costs $10k/pupil on average, and I imagine most of these code schools have a slightly higher bar.
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#8Shouldn't place like these be growing instead of closing down? What did they get wrong? The demand for qualified developers isn't slowing afaik.
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Re: Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
#9Anyone care to shed some light on what precipitated this?
I'd like to know this too. Their prices are very high, so maybe the demand subsided?
Re: Iron Yard code school to close all campuses
#10Shouldn't place like these be growing instead of closing down? What did they get wrong? The demand for qualified developers isn't slowing afaik.
1. People who can effectively teach others to program well enough to secure professional employment may have better options than teaching open-enrollment entry-level programming classes.
2. Because of that, and for any of a number of other reasons, we may generally be overestimating how effectively these kinds of schools are educating people.
3. It's an open secret that hiring in the technology industry isn't based on aptitude, but rather on credentials and hazing rituals. Something like 3 decades of cultural development have trained developers that the most important risk they face in hiring is accepting someone underqualified, rather than passing on someone who is in fact qualified.
Given all these problems, it's not surprising that a school with a model of charging a 4-5 figure tuition in exchange for attempting to increase the likelihood of graduates employment would fail.