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Designing a Bottle

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Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by TeMPOraL »

zichy wrote: post #107
sametmax wrote: post #100

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You are very condescending. These people are trying to do something, they share the process, they try to get some inspiration from people they like. What's the big deal ?

If I go to the supermarket, almost every smoothie bottle looks somewhat like the new Soylent bottle. I can't tell if they actually took inspiration from Dieter Rams, but it's really easy to refer to him since he is like the father of modern industrial (consumer) design. Soylent is an enterprise and they want to make themselves to look as good as possible in order to generate more revenue. No reason not to criticize a…

I envy you. Could we import that style to Europe sooner?

The juice bottles from "The Martian" movie are the epitome of consumer product design for me:

https://media1.giphy.com/media/11bglU5OG7SJAk/giphy-facebook...

(I apologize for the crappy image; I'm nowhere near a copy of the movie to make a decent screenshot)

No bullshit. Just the product name and necessary information about its content. No useless colors, no pictures of animals, smiling faces or other crap. There are days I dream of starting a food company just to make food in such packaging.

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by undersuit »

quasimodem wrote: post #61
gyrgtyn wrote: post #44

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What kind of plastic is this? Actually, I don't care; I wish disposable plastic in general would go away. Isn't part of their marketing greeness? But their model is keurig-for-calories? They _could_ refuse to do the plastic bottles and ship paper bags of powder...

Amen! Do we really need another billion plastic bottles in the trash stream? Doesn't this contradict the entire spirit of Soylent?

Compared to the cellophane and Styrofoam packaging that a steak is sold in in the standard American grocery store I think it's an improvement. They also mention that they no longer have the mostly-trash, plastic cap wrapper in the new design.

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by ensiferum »

jclardy wrote: post #126
ensiferum wrote: post #111

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And what exactly is the problem with denting? As long as the contents aren't spilled it should make no difference, no?

The problem is the customer paying $4+ a serving won't find that acceptable. A school won't care if a few $0.50 cartons are dented in a shipping crate of over a hundred milk cartons, but a customer that gets a dented $5 drink is going to complain and ask for a refund/replacement.

Seriously? What Retards.

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by joshvm »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #141
zichy wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I go to the supermarket, almost every smoothie bottle looks somewhat like the new Soylent bottle. I can't tell if they actually took inspiration from Dieter Rams, but it's really easy to refer to him since he is like the father of modern industrial (consumer) design. Soylent is an enterprise and they want to make themselves to look as good as possible in order to generate more revenue. No reason not to criticize a…

I envy you. Could we import that style to Europe sooner? The juice bottles from "The Martian" movie are the epitome of consumer product design for me: https://media1.giphy.com/media/11bglU5OG7SJAk/giphy-facebook... (I apologize for the crappy image; I'm nowhere near a copy of the movie to make a decent screenshot) No bullshit. Just the product name and necessary information about its content. No useless colors, no pi…

This already exists in Europe. In the UK lots of companies us sqround bottles, like Innocent Smoothies:

http://www.wowfreestuff.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Inn...

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by TeMPOraL »

joshvm wrote: post #144
TeMPOraL wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I envy you. Could we import that style to Europe sooner? The juice bottles from "The Martian" movie are the epitome of consumer product design for me: https://media1.giphy.com/media/11bglU5OG7SJAk/giphy-facebook... (I apologize for the crappy image; I'm nowhere near a copy of the movie to make a decent screenshot) No bullshit. Just the product name and necessary information about its content. No useless colors, no pi…

This already exists in Europe. In the UK lots of companies us sqround bottles, like Innocent Smoothies: http://www.wowfreestuff.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Inn...

I didn't mean the shape but the label. But still, I didn't even realize "sqround" is a word. Thanks!

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by joshvm »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #145
joshvm wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This already exists in Europe. In the UK lots of companies us sqround bottles, like Innocent Smoothies: http://www.wowfreestuff.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Inn...

I didn't mean the shape but the label. But still, I didn't even realize "sqround" is a word. Thanks!

I think Vitamin Water is pretty good in terms of clean marketing, except they fail when you actually read the rubbish copy on the label.

https://www.thewrendesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/vit...

Tesco's old Value range was also pretty good for telling you immediately what's in it: http://www.s4rb.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Old_Tesco_Val...

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by throwaway7645 »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #86
throwaway7645 wrote: post #28

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Apple might have some good products, but a lot of bad ones as well with a whole lot of marketing and devoted fans that will wait in line all night for it, so really not that different.

I'm not an Apple person by a long shot (full-time Linux desktop / Android user) but I'm struggling to think of an outright bad product that they've put out in the past 15 years or so... I guess the Watch had its shortcomings and the specs on their computers are falling behind the competition but everything they put out seems very well designed and engineered.

Watch, new computers lacking many peripherals unless you buy a bag of dongles, rehashing the same product over and over while software upgrades make them obsolete...just saying marketing is a huge part of what apple does.

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by tmccrmck »

dkonofalski wrote: post #9
rubatuga wrote: post #2

Same! Complete! Nutrition! More efficient! Please, it’s a bottle design. Is Soylent trying to create a following like Apple fans? At least Apple makes good products.

It does seem like they're trying to create a following like Apple. Instead of letting the work speak for itself, though, Soylent seems to think that they can incite that kind of appreciation.

The reference to Dieter Ram's Braun designs didn't tip you off?

Jony Ive is well known to love that look: https://www.google.com/search?q=johnny+ive&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8...

Re: Designing a Bottle

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Post by dkonofalski »

cyphar wrote: post #108
rahilb wrote: post #103

reminds me of possibly my favourite document of all time, the pepsi galaxy. https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell... > The Pepsi Ratio is created by two simple circles, that are in a set ratio to each other: The Golden Ratio. > The Pepsi Ratio is aesthetic geometry. > The Golden Ratio establishes a proportion of one part (a) relative to another (b). Playing by these rules produces an aestetic t…

Note that while that document is absolutely hilarious and almost believable, I believe that it was shown to be a fake some time ago.

I think the majority of the document is real but some of the pages have been swapped out with fakes. I totally believe that some pretentious designer did a lot of the backlog of work to look at the history of the design and I have a hard time believing that someone would put in all that effort to find those images, trace them in a vector art program, and then wireframe them just for a laugh.
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