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Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Trump would probably be a better candidate than either of them, at least he’s actually run a business and would have four years of presidential experience.

Your comment implies that Mark Zuckerberg has not run a business.

Nor Larry Page!

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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post #135

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I agree; the right-wing press lacks high quality journalists. Journalists seem to happen to lean left a whole lot more.

This is a convenient fiction. There are plenty of right-wing journalists who have similar quality to left wing. Publishers like The National Review have fine writers and it is hard to argue the a publication founded by William F. Buckley is some liberal organisation. The "problem" is that all these organizations are critical of Trump too.

>The National Review

And who else?

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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If only there was a system to create "feeds" of website entries (such as news sites), aggregate them, and then read them at our discretion. Then we could each create our own personal Google homepage. Google could brand such an offering as "Google reader" and "Google personalized homepage"... (For those who don't remember: these both used to be a thing!)

I think that's sort of what RSS was going for, but it doesn't seem to have really taken off. Maybe we need an RSS 2.0.

RSS did take off... Google released their free reader, which grabbed (probably) 80% market share with 1-2 engineers maintaining it. Then it was killed (to the VERY loud protestations of the internet) for no apparent reason.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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The "newsfeed" pattern is one of the worst ideas humanity has ever had. Never has it been so easy to manipulate public opinion at will. 10 years ago there was a such thing as standards in journalism. Now anypoliticalblog.com's headline has been promoted to the equal status of an actual news organisation by means of the implicit legitimacy of appearing in a news feed. This insanity has reached a crescendo with the off…

I may have agreed with you at some point in my nearly century long news junkie-hood, but now i rule by this:

"i dont need to know about a person i will never meet or a place i will never go."

Most of any media is junk

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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20 years ago, all the engines (AltaVista, Lycos) did exactly that. And then they all became "portal" like. And then a brand new engine with just a search box (so refreshing so clean) came along and swiped them over....

> 20 years ago, all the engines (AltaVista, Lycos) did exactly that.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a convenient fiction. There are plenty of right-wing journalists who have similar quality to left wing. Publishers like The National Review have fine writers and it is hard to argue the a publication founded by William F. Buckley is some liberal organisation. The "problem" is that all these organizations are critical of Trump too.

>The National Review And who else?

Certain other commentary magazines (eg Weekly Standard and Commentary), think tanks (AEI, Heritage, Cato), business newspapers (Wall Street Journal).

I do think there is an issue in that these sort of commentators have much less visibility than before in American politics, so it's easy to form a negative opinion about right wing journalism. Partially as a result, I can name several commentators that have migrated from "Republican conservative" to a more "independent" oriented stance. Names like David Frum, Andrew Sullivan, Bruce Bartlett, David Brooks, and George Will come to mind. None of these names are 100% "liberal", neither are still today. They just don't fit well with right-wing media that has increasingly become populist.

It is probably my bias, but I can't think of a similar type of left-wing commentator that's made the same transition. On the other hand, I've noticed increased populism in more left-oriented media too...

This is a shame, because even when these type of commentators were at their most raucous, I always got the impression that both sides respected each other. (You saw the same thing at, say the Supreme Court, where Scalia and Ginsburg were friends.) A lot of media these days in contrast is extremely us vs. them and tribal oriented, with seemingly no respect for the other side at all.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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post #9

20 years ago, all the engines (AltaVista, Lycos) did exactly that. And then they all became "portal" like. And then a brand new engine with just a search box (so refreshing so clean) came along and swiped them over....

Ironically Google used make a big deal about how their homepage was clean and uncluttered, unlike Yahoo (they especially called out Yahoo's horoscopes).

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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post #41

The "newsfeed" pattern is one of the worst ideas humanity has ever had. Never has it been so easy to manipulate public opinion at will. 10 years ago there was a such thing as standards in journalism. Now anypoliticalblog.com's headline has been promoted to the equal status of an actual news organisation by means of the implicit legitimacy of appearing in a news feed. This insanity has reached a crescendo with the off…

> 10 years ago there was a such thing as standards in journalism Was there? Because last I checked all that these so called 'reputable' sources of news seem to put out is biased garbage full of misleading data and often blatant lies. I've seen better journalism from bloody buzzfeed than I have from some of the "proper" news networks in Australia...

It was legal required in the US for the news to be at least "factual" until... /checks .... a 2003 appeals court ruling.
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