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Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by fumigator » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 1:05 PM UTC

Your cloud service does everything except for file backups, load balancing and can't handle huge file copies. And for reliability and responsiveness, requires a hybrid private-public cloud. Which begs the question as to what's the point of moving to the cloud in the first place.

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by 8draco8 » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 1:07 PM UTC

smudgymcscmudge wrote: post #10

Way to put a spoiler right in the title. I'm happy to have read this before seeing the post here.

This is not supposed to be thrilling story. It's a news.

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by the_mitsuhiko » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 1:20 PM UTC

manmal wrote: post #8

mrkrabo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's an issue with the cablemodem? There aren't many different manufacturers of cablemodems. What's yours?

Actually I received a new one yesterday. I have to check again whether the issue persists. The new one is called "Connect Box" and is jointly manufactured by Compal und Arris.

Also using Connect Box. No interest in switching to bridge however as I have no device capable of connecting by itself.

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by the_mitsuhiko » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 1:20 PM UTC

mjw1007 wrote: post #7

Rjevski wrote: post #3

Yet another problem caused by shitty consumer-grade network equipment.

Also: yet another problem caused by NAT.

And yet NAT solves more problems than it causes.

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by moduspwnens14 » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 1:29 PM UTC

coldcode wrote: post #4

We take network transmissions for granted sometimes, TCP/IP has been around so long we assume nothing strange can still happen. But implementations still matter, it only take one strange piece of software or hardware and you wind up with craziness like this.

Yep. Honestly I probably would have assumed it's not a protocol issue if both HTTP and HTTPS downloads from S3 behaved the same way. Both of those protocols are on TCP, though, so that would have thrown me off!

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by Rjevski » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 1:37 PM UTC

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #14

mjw1007 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: yet another problem caused by NAT.

And yet NAT solves more problems than it causes.

I disagree. What problem does NAT solve, other than allowing people to cut corners and not deploy IPv6?

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by growse » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 1:39 PM UTC

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #14

mjw1007 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: yet another problem caused by NAT.

And yet NAT solves more problems than it causes.

The main problem it causes is that it breaks the internet: not all peers are routable. It's difficult to think of a greater benefit that offsets that.

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by kingraoul3 » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 2:19 PM UTC

Rjevski wrote: post #16

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet NAT solves more problems than it causes.

I disagree. What problem does NAT solve, other than allowing people to cut corners and not deploy IPv6?

Well, it allowed us to keep growing the internet before we had IPv6, for one thing.

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by Rjevski » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 2:36 PM UTC

kingraoul3 wrote: post #18

Rjevski wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. What problem does NAT solve, other than allowing people to cut corners and not deploy IPv6?

Well, it allowed us to keep growing the internet before we had IPv6, for one thing.

Wasn't IPv6 already out before we ran out of IPv4 addresses? In which case NAT is just a kluge for the lazy who didn't want to deploy IPv6.

Re: Hanging S3 downloads

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Post by wbl » Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 2:36 PM UTC

kingraoul3 wrote: post #18

Rjevski wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. What problem does NAT solve, other than allowing people to cut corners and not deploy IPv6?

Well, it allowed us to keep growing the internet before we had IPv6, for one thing.

You might want to look at when IPv6 was designed. It's quite a bit older than you might think.