The most profitable place to be a Software Developer: Seattle
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Re: The most profitable place to be a Software Developer: Seattle
#2Moscow: -6669? How?
Re: The most profitable place to be a Software Developer: Seattle
#3Moscow: -6669? How?
Essentially it's saying the average (legitimate) software engineering salary in Moscow is too low to afford the average rental + cost of living. Which probably helps explain why so much ransomware etc comes out of there...
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#4What about laws surrounding time off, parental leave, other family benefits, etc.? CA for example allows vacation time to "roll over" across years, but many other countries mandate time off [1].
What about health care costs, or access to quality care? Cost of child care? etc.
Software developers are not single men, and it would be naive to present data leaning towards just that demographic.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_b...
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#5The 'quality of life' section is a bit 1 dimensional. Clearly, there is more to life than crime and housing costs. Notably absent are lifestyle indicators -- bikability/walkability or cultural exposure for example. Dallas and other Texas cities rank highly, but if you prefer walking/biking/taking public transit to work, you are generally SOL. And is it really honest to say life in Raleigh is almost 2x better than in London?
Also, that cost of living for Portland seems high.
Re: The most profitable place to be a Software Developer: Seattle
#6What about laws surrounding time off, parental leave, other family benefits, etc.? CA for example allows vacation time to "roll over" across years, but many other countries mandate time off [1]. What about health care costs, or access to quality care? Cost of child care? etc. Software developers are not single men, and it would be naive to present data leaning towards just that demographic. [1] https://en.wikipedia.o…
Definitely true! There are software developers in every demographic. We (Codementor) just hoped this may be a good jumping-off point to compare salaries across cities while taking into account taxes, costs, etc. Family benefits, healthcare, and the costs of raising a family change things, you're right.
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#7The 'quality of life' section is a bit 1 dimensional. Clearly, there is more to life than crime and housing costs. Notably absent are lifestyle indicators -- bikability/walkability or cultural exposure for example. Dallas and other Texas cities rank highly, but if you prefer walking/biking/taking public transit to work, you are generally SOL. And is it really honest to say life in Raleigh is almost 2x better than in…
Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I wouldn't put too much weight on the quality of life index (except for the factors it takes into account). We just included it to give some context outside of earnings, but of course, it is limited in scope. I also would be hesitant to use it to say City A is "twice as good" as City B, but just that City A is ranked higher than City B.
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#8Yes, everyone is NYC is paying $3000/mo in rent...of course we are. Don't move here. It's terrible.
Let's keep that fiction alive so that those of us who have 2-3 roommates and take a 30 minute subway trip each morning can keep our great....$3000/mo rents....to ourselves.
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#9Yes, everyone is NYC is paying $3000/mo in rent...of course we are. Don't move here. It's terrible. Let's keep that fiction alive so that those of us who have 2-3 roommates and take a 30 minute subway trip each morning can keep our great....$3000/mo rents....to ourselves.
People having to split small spaces, has the same quality of life impact to most people. There is no misconception of what NYC is, lots of people just don't want the life of either paying a ton of money, or not having what they consider to be a bare minimum amount of space, to not even make more (hell the median salary in NYC is 30K less than Seattle right now!). Being from the east coast, there is little doubt in my mind that NYC is one of the worst deals in the country right now which is correctly reflected in this article. In Seattle: I'm a 10 minute drive, and 20 minute bus commute from my work, and the mortgage on my house + maintenance cost is probably less than or equal to your cost for a portion of an apartment.
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#10The 'quality of life' section is a bit 1 dimensional. Clearly, there is more to life than crime and housing costs. Notably absent are lifestyle indicators -- bikability/walkability or cultural exposure for example. Dallas and other Texas cities rank highly, but if you prefer walking/biking/taking public transit to work, you are generally SOL. And is it really honest to say life in Raleigh is almost 2x better than in…
It's also the most subjective; people drastically vary in what they value in their city. It seems like more money is the most universally uniform factor which is why it's treated as the main value focus of all these surveys.