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Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

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Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#31

Opening up my hard drive to store unknown materials? Imagine trying to explain any of this to a cop, judge, or jury.

Storage rental is a concept that most people are familiar with. Extending that from physical objects to data isn't a very big step. Of course, storage facilities probably have some regulations to comply with that you won't be following.

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#32

Opening up my hard drive to store unknown materials? Imagine trying to explain any of this to a cop, judge, or jury.

Yeah, you are getting paid a few cents to act as a proxy for criminals. Somehow I don't think this will catch on with the general public any time soon.

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#33

I'm still confused why I would want my storage to be decentralized. No I don't want my files spread on thousands or millions of computers no matter how encrypted etc.

This is the reason I can't take Silicon Valley too seriously. It isn't the magic algorithm, it is that no sane person would want Pied Piper's storage because it does just what you said in the context of the show.

The same reason I can't take Ethereum seriously. Do people seriously trust, or want an unproven hypervisor running code remotely on their hardware/network?

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#34
post #25

I'm still confused why I would want my storage to be decentralized. No I don't want my files spread on thousands or millions of computers no matter how encrypted etc.

What do you think Apple or Google does with your files after they are uploaded? Do you think they aren't encrypted and spread out over several machines?

All those machines are owned by Google or Apple though. They're not completely random machines.

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#35
post #25

I'm still confused why I would want my storage to be decentralized. No I don't want my files spread on thousands or millions of computers no matter how encrypted etc.

What do you think Apple or Google does with your files after they are uploaded? Do you think they aren't encrypted and spread out over several machines?

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Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#36
post #25

I'm still confused why I would want my storage to be decentralized. No I don't want my files spread on thousands or millions of computers no matter how encrypted etc.

What do you think Apple or Google does with your files after they are uploaded? Do you think they aren't encrypted and spread out over several machines?

But with Apple and Google, I know my data won’t go missing because the p2p network decided to stop seeding my file. Torrents die all the time due to lack of seeding.

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#37

Opening up my hard drive to store unknown materials? Imagine trying to explain any of this to a cop, judge, or jury.

Storage rental is a concept that most people are familiar with. Extending that from physical objects to data isn't a very big step. Of course, storage facilities probably have some regulations to comply with that you won't be following.

Yes, with this logic, storage rental should expand into the sharing economy. You could rent out a room in your house for strangers to store their stuff in. Not a big step at all.

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#38
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Coming from academia, these sort of papers would not pass any sort of double-bind peer review process. Where's the actual science? Where are the experiments? It seems to be just a document describing the protocol of Filecoin, which is fine. The problem is that all these "whitepapers" coming from these cryptocurrency communities seem to be promoted as scientific papers, but in reality do not stand a chance in any scie…

Meh. This article doesn't claim to be a scientific paper, so I don't see any reason to complain. I understand that some people will be confused because it has similar formatting to a "scientific" paper. But what are we going to do about it? Regulate LaTeX templates?

On the other hand, this is massively better to what normal corporate types call a "whitepaper" (usually just a glossy brochure that tells you nothing new.)

> Where are the experiments?

The experiments are in the markets. :) I.e. "here's a new coin, will it make money?"

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

#39

Opening up my hard drive to store unknown materials? Imagine trying to explain any of this to a cop, judge, or jury.

How is this any different from what Amazon does? They don't manually inspect all uploaded files. Instead, they rely on legal protections given to service providers.

Filecoin miners can do the same by (a) registering as service providers and (b) complying with blacklists and takedown notices as mandated by their legal jurisdiction. Note: Filecoin miners don't just store arbitrary files assigned by the network; they sign contracts with specific clients to store specific files. The only difference from Amazon is that the network itself enforces these contracts.

Re: Filecoin: A Decentralized Storage Network [pdf]

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think Apple or Google does with your files after they are uploaded? Do you think they aren't encrypted and spread out over several machines?

But with Apple and Google, I know my data won’t go missing because the p2p network decided to stop seeding my file. Torrents die all the time due to lack of seeding.

I believe that's what projects like Filecoin and Swarm are trying to solve. How do you incentivise long term storage of these files.
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