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Re: Fuse

#52

> I never understood why people hate native languages so much You actually need to know some programming if you want to write applications in Swift, Java or .NET. That's why.

You can write Javascript without knowing how to program?

Re: Fuse

#53

Initially the title make me think this was about libfuse / Filesystem in Userspace

Indeed, please could the title be named properly to reflect the site?

Re: Fuse

#54
post #3

Looks like Electron on steroids. The landing page is nice but it's like putting lipstick on a pig - it's still a pig in the end. Also, I never understood why people hate native languages so much - why do you want to replace everything with Javascript? It's shit - it's a necessary evil in the browser but when the environment gives you something better (Swift, Java, etc) why not enjoy it?

> it's still a pig in the end. Why would you say that? I'm not convinced you even looked at it longer than to arrive at the conclusion that it has some JavaScript in it so it must be like Electron. The whole point of Fuse is that all the heavy loading is not JavaScript. Basically your business logic is JS, but the UI is declarative and both the UI and the animations are all hardware accelerated, compiled down to mach…

That's my problem, the business logic is in JS. I hate JS to begin with but I would have tolerated it if the only place it's used is for UI - but come on there are much better languages to write business logic in.

Re: Fuse

#55
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When did we decide that developer time was more precious than user experience anyway? I think people really over exaggerate native UI experiences... maybe a native experience is 10 out of 10 good and a non-native experience is something like 7 out of 10 good but it's not as bad as 1 out of 10 good. I'm sure there's lots of occasions where users will be happy with a non-native app rather than not having one at all b…

> and a non-native experience is something like 7 out of 10 good I'd agree. Maybe even as high as 9 out of 10, depending on the framework used and the adherence to platform norms. User experience is not just the UI though, using a GB of RAM when you could be using 10MB is also a poor user experience, particularly when you run out of memory. Most people won't be knowledgeable to blame the app for this poor experience…

To be honest, I don't even use many desktop apps at all anymore besides a music player, terminal, IDE and a browser. Everything else has slowly transitioned to the web. I'd wager non-technical users are fine with this is well and really don't have strong feeling about what native apps are.

Re: Fuse

#56

Initially the title make me think this was about libfuse / Filesystem in Userspace

I clicked wondering what happened with fuse to make HN front page, turns out it's not fuse but some useless (to me) dev crap for the two largest compuphones makers.

Re: Fuse

#57
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like .NET [1]? Plus weird build tools and binaries in source control 1: https://github.com/fusetools/fuselibs-public/blob/master/.tr... 2: https://github.com/fusetools/fuselibs-public/tree/master/Stu...

"iOS and Android from day one, with one shared codebase in UX Markup and JavaScript. You can also access all native features when needed by adding Objective-C, Swift or Java code directly to your project." (from their official site) I guess their actual compiler for "UX Markup" could be written in .NET but Javascript is definitely and unfortunately invited.

Bent from Fuse here — The UX Markup compiler is actually written in Uno, a lightweight C# dialect that compiles to native C++ for iOS and Android. JavaScript is just used for business logic and runs on a separate thread from the UI engine.

Re: Fuse

#58
post #43

I tried Fuse a while ago and even tough I didn't really got into it it was all very comfortable. Lot of examples that look very promising really help to get into the main stuff quickly. Tough, after learning React (preact actually) ; I'm wondering what it could help achieve more than going trough Native React. The last one is already well implemented and is "structured" like react, merging up some learning curve. as…

Bent from Fuse here again: thanks for the feedback — we definitely know of a lot of people who use both RN and Fuse for different projects. They both have advantages and disadvantages, depending on your team makeup, experience and what type of project you're working on.

Your feedback around pricing is also duly noted.

Re: Fuse

#59

$125/month bye Looking for alternative React Native

I totally get that — thankfully Fuse itself is free (it has the same real-time desktop preview engine for both Windows and macOS, uses the same descriptive UX Markup language, and lets you deploy without cost to both iOS and Android like you're used to).

Fuse Studio is meant for people who want or need extra tooling on top, and is indeed our premium offering (the Fuse Professional plan doesn't just include Fuse Studio, but also premium components, Xcode and Android Studio library export support, multiple viewports and more). It's definitely not just for teams either, it's just _more suited_ if you work together with others.

There's a 30-day free trial of Fuse Studio too, so check it out and see if you'll do more than well enough with regular Fuse.

Re: Fuse

#60
post #42
post #11

I really don't see the point. If you don't need cross platform the best choice is native so you can leverage all the platform goodies. If you do need cross platform and have the budget you will go with 2 native projects. If you don't have enough budget for 2 native apps you have a few options. Cordova is good enough for a lot of apps. Even Apple uses Webviews in its own apps. Also check the Missive mail client all bu…

Hi, I'm Remi from Fusetools. This interview with our CEO Anders does a good job of summarizing what we're about: https://www.forbes.com/sites/julianmitchell/2017/06/29/this-... (feel free to skip past the intro about why app development is A Thing :) TL;DR We're primarily about being able to create cool stuff in less time (cross-platform is just a side-effect of that). A lot of what we build comes down to creating go…

There's a "welcome ad" redirection on forbes website preventing me from reading any articles there. Maybe choose a better place to host content you want to link to.

Is it really crossplatform when according to your website it only supports the two majors compuphones makers ? Seems to me it's more marketing than anything else.

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