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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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She donated all of her share ($150m) to charity to boot.

That's nice, but let's be honest: She is a billionaire, and will continue to make hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars during her future tenure at Google. A person of average means donating $500 may be a bigger personal sacrifice than Greene donating $150M.

Very well said.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

HN should build a bot that posts this comment automatically on every Google post to save these guys from having to type the same thing over and over.

I agree - it's boring to see "but they close projects so you can't trust them" comments every time Google does anything constructive.

Maybe the bot could also post an "If you provide a free service, how are you obligated to provide it forever?" response, to save me having to.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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We've tried Workable, Lever and about half a dozen other platforms. None of them stuck. What has worked is to do everything in GitHub. We wrote about it a few years ago [1] and should probably write an updated version of our approach, but in a nutshell; - When candidates apply through our online form on our website or via email, we create a GitHub issue and assign it to the right person on our team. - Everybody on th…

>>We've tried Workable, Lever and about half a dozen other platforms. None of them stuck.

Why did they not stick? What were they doing wrong?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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That sounds like it was unworkable in Firefox. Maybe FF just isn't a very good browser? You can be standards-compliant while implementing the standards with performance problems and ugly corner-cases.

It works in Firefox. Always has. Change the UA, and it just works. This is the same story as when Google made Inbox a "Chrome-Exclusive" that also didn’t run in Safari, Opera, or even fucking Chromium. It’s just anticompetitiveness.

> It’s just anticompetitiveness.

I find it interesting how a word's proper usage is in a case that it's opposite would work better!

Anticompetitive is the right word in your sentence, of course, but google isn't anti-competitive in this case with firefox. It is ultra-competitive!

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #56

This product is built by the team that joined through bebop, a $380M acquisition which came with Diane Greene, who now heads Google Cloud (Chief of Cloud), and Bogomil Balkansky who now heads Hired (VP). https://venturebeat.com/2016/01/04/google-paid-380m-to-buy-b...

Small clarification in case it confused anyone else: Bogomil Balkansky heads the OP Google product, `Hire`, not the unrelated recruiting company `Hired`.

Thanks!

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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That's nice, but let's be honest: She is a billionaire, and will continue to make hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars during her future tenure at Google. A person of average means donating $500 may be a bigger personal sacrifice than Greene donating $150M.

I dont know why this is being down-voted. While what she did is great, it is a true point in terms of personal sacrifice. I saw an interview with Bill Gates where he said much the same thing to a comment about his generosity. He pointed out he doesn't sacrifice a single item/experience he wants in life giving away what he does. And a ordinary person that gives a few hundred gives up more than him in terms of what it…

True, but how many humans are able to take that perspective? If history has taught me anything, it's that our desires don't end when they are satisfied.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #228

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She donated all of her share ($150m) to charity to boot.

That's nice, but let's be honest: She is a billionaire, and will continue to make hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars during her future tenure at Google. A person of average means donating $500 may be a bigger personal sacrifice than Greene donating $150M.

How do you know how much money she has? What is her net worth? She's way below someone like Bill Gates (who could count $150M as disposable at .17% of his net worth), and (unless she's doing some impressive money laundering) is not a billionaire. So even if you say she has $999M, $150M is 15% of her money. Unless someone average has ~$3k to their name, $150M is a lot more to her.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #39

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

Stay away from Lever. It's a slick web application along the lines of the fanciness of Asana's interface. What it isn't is a sane applicant tracking system. It doesn't reliably notify you when candidates apply. It supports virtually zero job board integrations. It very much wants you to adapt to it, with very little support for the other way around. The interface is over-complicated to the point of being unusable for…

As a developer who gives interviews, I enjoy using Lever. It's very easy to use for getting information on candidates and providing feedback on interview performance.

I haven't heard any complaints from the recruiting team either, so it seems to work at least reasonably well for them too.

They might not have integrations with other job boards, but as someone interviewing, I prefer that since Lever had the best application interfaces of any job application site.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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In positive news, it'll probably be only a couple of years until Google gets bored of being in that space and either shutters the product or spins it off to an independent company.

It's part of Gsuite, so that's unlikely.

You'll have to excuse me being skeptical.

Both from the outside looking in, and from discussions with people who have worked in Google, the overwhelming impression I get is that anywhere outside of a few key areas, it's mostly a bunch of geeks playing with something until they get bored.

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