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Re: Apollo – An open autonomous driving platform

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We accept that human drivers kill thousands upon thousands of people. We won't tolerate deaths from automation even in the single digits. That may not be rational but it's also unlikely to change.

Yet, Robots and automated machines (not the autonomous vehicles) still killed/injured a few dozen people since 1984 according to U.S. Department of Labor. [1] [1]: https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/AccidentSearch.search?acc_keyw... Worldwide stats will be far more than that. We've accepted it, haven't we?

They're freak accidents. We wouldn't tolerate deaths day in and day out to the tune of 40,200 in the US in 2016.

..too lazy to find and paste stat from mobile

Re: Apollo – An open autonomous driving platform

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post #38
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We accept that human drivers kill thousands upon thousands of people. We won't tolerate deaths from automation even in the single digits. That may not be rational but it's also unlikely to change.

Yet, Robots and automated machines (not the autonomous vehicles) still killed/injured a few dozen people since 1984 according to U.S. Department of Labor. [1] [1]: https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/AccidentSearch.search?acc_keyw... Worldwide stats will be far more than that. We've accepted it, haven't we?

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Re: Apollo – An open autonomous driving platform

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post #38
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We accept that human drivers kill thousands upon thousands of people. We won't tolerate deaths from automation even in the single digits. That may not be rational but it's also unlikely to change.

Yet, Robots and automated machines (not the autonomous vehicles) still killed/injured a few dozen people since 1984 according to U.S. Department of Labor. [1] [1]: https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/AccidentSearch.search?acc_keyw... Worldwide stats will be far more than that. We've accepted it, haven't we?

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Re: Apollo – An open autonomous driving platform

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These open source driving platforms are an interesting way to test out the limits of liability disclaimers on software. This license has: 8. Limitation of Liability. In no event and under no legal theory, whether in tort (including negligence), contract, or otherwise, unless required by applicable law (such as deliberate and grossly negligent acts) or agreed to in writing, shall any Contributor be liable to You for d…

Otherwise nobody would want to work on open source projects if they were to be always liable for the damage their software causes its users...

Re: Apollo – An open autonomous driving platform

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It'd be cool to have some sort of independent 'weissman score' style benchmark for these systems. Maybe just RMSE or similar against ground truth steering/throttle over a battery of different environments/weather/terrain. It looks like it uses LIDAR and Baidu has a pretty impressive AI team so it'd be really interesting to see how they stack up against, say, Comma AI's openpilot or Tesla's autopilot.

Re: Apollo – An open autonomous driving platform

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I'd imagine this could work on a small fleet of miniature cars (rc size?). A model town/city could be built with various obstacles for training a large amount of the ai, I would think.

The autonomous racing league that meets in Oakland is doing exactly that. Typically the R/C car uses wifi to connect back to an AWS instance for the heavy lifting.

> Typically the R/C car uses wifi to connect back to an AWS instance for the heavy lifting.

Wow, and the latency is manageable for the task?

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