Google relaunches Glass for businesses • Hacker News Board

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by bitmapbrother » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:29 PM UTC

aresant wrote: post #9

This is so !@%!@ cool. Check out the A/B test of a technician with / without the software referenced in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gXuZp25f0 Then here's a video that gives a sense of the software's interface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HOHNECW20 Very workflow oriented with nice communication and lookup features. This is the kind of small optimization stuff that is going to be revolutionary…

Here's a Boeing video on how they use Glass for their wiring harnesses. Pretty fascinating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTblKJjTadQ

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by giobox » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:33 PM UTC

pm90 wrote: post #36

giobox wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I honestly though(t) Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. Outside of the tech community this is a distinction I imagine few would make - most people upon seeing a camera are going to not unreasonably assume it can record. I still see large numbers of people taping over their laptop webcams even when they are turned off.…

> I think the simpler explanation is that strapping a camera to your face is simply inappropriate or off-putting in some social settings, at least with today's typical social norms. Didn't help that the only people who did/could/would buy the first glass prototypes were nerds who apparently started using them in bars and clubs. That solidified its image as "creepy". Contrast it with Spectacles, a product designed to…

The typical use case for Spectacles, at least as I see it, is a little different though. Spectacles is much more like a Go Pro, in that I will be out doing some kind of activity I want to share with friends. People also typically don't wear sunglasses indoors, my expectation of privacy is very different outdoors vs indoors.

The approach with Google Glass was very different, where Google were arguably prototyping a device intended to be worn all the time, including indoors and in scenarios were people typically would not normally expect to be photographed or filmed.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by Graciela54 » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:33 PM UTC

bowmessage wrote: post #26

aresant wrote: post #9

This is so !@%!@ cool. Check out the A/B test of a technician with / without the software referenced in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gXuZp25f0 Then here's a video that gives a sense of the software's interface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HOHNECW20 Very workflow oriented with nice communication and lookup features. This is the kind of small optimization stuff that is going to be revolutionary…

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Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by kbenson » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:33 PM UTC

djsumdog wrote: post #18

This is cool and all, and I'm glad the concept didn't totally die, but will consumers ever see this type of wearable tech again? Some people shelled out over $1k when Google initially offered glass prototypes, only to be left with unmaintained devices. I honestly though Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. It's sad that n…

> Some people shelled out over $1k when Google initially offered glass prototypes, only to be left with unmaintained devices.

Are they completely unmaintained? There was a story here recently how it just got an update for the first time in a few years[1]. I'm not sure if that was a fluke, or a renewed commitment...

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14608894

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by xienze » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:34 PM UTC

arbitrage wrote: post #29

kharms wrote: post #8

>>Glass is also helping healthcare professionals. Doctors at Dignity Health have been using Glass with an application our partner Augmedix calls “a remote scribe”. My primary care doctor has a human scribe. The scribe is a recent graduate (BS), planning on going to med school next year. Being physically in the room, watching the doctor work is a great benefit to her. I'm not sure she'd benefit as much from watching a…

I would be totally cool with being recorded. I think its beyond time we get past the ridiculous false modesty that seems to be considered a virtue, but with no real benefit.

It has less to do with "false modesty" and more to do with the fact that a recording of you is being sent somewhere, probably a Google server, which leaves the door open for someone to get a hold of it. That doesn't concern you at all?

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by LeifCarrotson » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:34 PM UTC

djsumdog wrote: post #18

This is cool and all, and I'm glad the concept didn't totally die, but will consumers ever see this type of wearable tech again? Some people shelled out over $1k when Google initially offered glass prototypes, only to be left with unmaintained devices. I honestly though Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. It's sad that n…

> will consumers ever see this type of wearable tech again?

Sure. When many thousands of these devices have been produced on a growing economy of scale, when there are multiple options available from various vendors at various price points, when ordinary cellular network speeds and capacities are closer to the wifi in these businesses, when there's education, experience and toolchains for building apps that run on them, and the hardware has been battle-hardened, I'm sure they'll make more sense for consumers.

Computers were first affordable to businesses only - first as mainframes, then as PCs, then again as laptops, and once more as tablets. Consumers didn't buy the first cellular telephones and car phones, businesspeople did. CNC milling machines and rapid prototyping machines were once reserved for specialized, high-technology machine shops, now hobbyists can put a CNC router or 3D printer in their workshop. You used to have to go to a dealer with an expensive computer console when your check engine light came on, now a $10 OBDII reader can read and clear codes for you.

> I guess the battery life issues are still too big for many manufacturers to overcome?

They probably will be a problem for a long time. Unfortunately, battery capacity seems like one of those areas where we're not simply too low on the technology pyramid, it's just a question of raw physics. I would love to see this problem sidestepped by the compromise of making the batteries on these devices easily swappable. Even if they only got 6-8 hours of battery life, I'd happily unclip the battery on the earpiece at lunch or when I get home, swapping in the freshly charged one from my bag. What I don't want is an undersized battery that's glued in and decays down to 60% capacity after 18 months.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by lallysingh » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:35 PM UTC

payne92 wrote: post #27

It's easy to armchair quarterback this stuff after the fact, but this is where Glass should have started. The price point, social stigma/issues, and use cases all screamed "business applications!". Consumer tech may be where the glamour and scale are, but it's not always the best market entry point.

And the glamor. If you started on the manufacturing side, it wouldn't have any caché when walking down the street. But if you started with a bunch of models on a runway wearing these, you would.

They tried going lux consumer and failed. But if they went the manufacturing route first, they would've burned any chance of the other.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by saimiam » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:36 PM UTC

projectramo wrote: post #33

ben_jones wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automatically send the last 24hr of visual to fast-track airport security?

This sends a clear message to all would-be assailants: wait at least a day after your planning is complete.

The history of you.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by xxs » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:38 PM UTC

gfodor wrote: post #39

I've never understood why they insist on having the device be visually asymmetric. Just put a piece of plastic on the other side that is non-functional, and the "cyborg effect" basically goes away. The human brain hates asymmetric faces. Such a stupid oversight, may have been enough to save the consumer effort if they did this from the get-go.

Leave that 'piece o'plastic' stuff, the extra room can be utilized as extra battery.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by LeifCarrotson » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 4:39 PM UTC

marsRoverDev wrote: post #40

omot wrote: post #37

I don't know what it is about it, but the design is so cringey. Even on a professional, it just looks... bad.

In a world where people are forced to wear hi-vis and safety goggles, I don't think people on a shop floor are going to particularly care about looking good if it makes their job easier.

Don't forget those formal white (OK, heavy canvas or leather) gloves to complete your outfit, nor the essential steel-toe boots! They're at the peak of high-fashion footwear. You can look even better if you're only on the shop floor part-time and get to don colorful Oshatoes over your dress shoes: https://www.oshatoes.com/collections/toe-protection/products...