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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by stale2002 »

libertine wrote: post #126
agentgt wrote: post #41

My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in…

I just don't get how this is considered "normal" - they create the ecosystem, let it thrive with the content users generate, and after some category/apps reach a certain interesting threshold, Google gathers all the data they have access to and use their massive distribution system to deploy their version built on the back of their userbase. I think it's dangerous, in all honesty. The same goes for Apple/Facebook/Ama…

Does this result in a better or worse user experience?

Personally I don't care if a company built atop of Google fails.

The only thing I care about is consumer welfare, and good quality products + lower prices.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by pm90 »

coredog64 wrote: post #13
readhn wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linkedin doesnt have resumes?? Every linkedin profile is technically a resume. Dates, roles, qualifications are all there along with references.

Many companies have HR software that will even let you apply with your LinkedIn profile instead of a resume/filling out an app.

LinkedIn actually rolled out a new feature "Easy Apply" or something where all you need to do is click an Apply button and it (presumably) sends your profile information to the job.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by stale2002 »

readhn wrote: post #3
pasharayan wrote: post #2

It's easy to forget, but LinkedIn doesn't have rich resume data of candidates. With Hire, Google now gets rich resume & employee data - data, when coupled with search history, that can now be used to build better user profiles than before. Given this, "Hire" is (or could become) a trojan horse into replacing the network effect that LinkedIn has created.

Linkedin doesnt have resumes?? Every linkedin profile is technically a resume. Dates, roles, qualifications are all there along with references.

Linkedin isn't optimized as a physical resume.

If all of the important information doesn't fit on one page, in a way that is nicely organized and looks good, then it is not a resume.

Nobody should ever print out their linkedin profile and then hand it to a recruiter.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by itsdrewmiller »

Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

Jazz has up front pricing and we have been very happy with it.

https://www.jazzhr.com/pricing/

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by stale2002 »

chris__butters wrote: post #100

Let's see how many businesses are destroyed and how much money Google makes because of this. It's a shame they can't just stand back and let people use websites like Indeed, Monster, JobSite among others and let them get on with it and just make money from the ads. Do they not make enough already?

Then maybe those companies should stop sucking.

If Google can make a better recruiting experience, then they deserve my money, not other companies who suck.

That's the free market!

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by lostboys67 »

agentgt wrote: post #41

My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in…

Indeed scrapes and takes feeds from other recruitment their inventory is not very high quality.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by libertine »

stale2002 wrote: post #131
libertine wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't get how this is considered "normal" - they create the ecosystem, let it thrive with the content users generate, and after some category/apps reach a certain interesting threshold, Google gathers all the data they have access to and use their massive distribution system to deploy their version built on the back of their userbase. I think it's dangerous, in all honesty. The same goes for Apple/Facebook/Ama…

Does this result in a better or worse user experience? Personally I don't care if a company built atop of Google fails. The only thing I care about is consumer welfare, and good quality products + lower prices.

The thing is - and Peter Thiel actually makes a good point about this in Zero To One, when it comes to monopoly's - a monopoly is healthy as long as it invests into technology development, because they have the financial muscle to do it.

This kind of development is a vertical leap? I don't see it like such... just like I don't see it when Amazon brings their branded products to category's that are doing well.

I don't say Google, Amazon, don't invest in proper tech development - but this kind of development is just to establish themselves deeply at the cost of their user base.

I feel split in this subject honestly - on one side, why can't they leverage something of their own? On the other hand, that's when things start to get shady.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by lostboys67 »

inetsee wrote: post #128

What I'd really like to see is a database of information about employers that's not readily available until you become an employee, like non-compete agreements, intellectual property assignments, etc. If you've quit your job, sold your house / given up your apartment, moved all your stuff to a new city, then on your first day at your new job they hand you a stack of documents to sign including some (like non-compete…

And access to the private salary data that the big employers use would be nice as well.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by ehsankia »

lettergram wrote: post #10

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

It's easy to critique them for being too big, but what solution do you have? Would you propose that they just... stop scaling? Stop making new products?

I realize that they are really big, and with more products, they get more data, but imagine for one second that your goal truly was to help customers and provide them with as many useful tools as possible, what options would you have?

You either make more products that helps people (and end up getting more data), or you don't, stay stale, and end up going down like Yahoo or many other company who don't evolve do.

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