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Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Post by Bartweiss »

coldpie wrote: post #36
kogepathic wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How has no one done this before? Lots of crowd funding projects have done this. Just look at the Jolla Tablet [0] if you want a concrete example of a company using backer's money as an interest free loan without delivering anything. Fortunately for Jide backers, they're actually receiving a refund. Jolla has been giving their backers excuses for why they cannot return the funds for the past 2.5 years. [0] https://e…

I mean, this is how crowdfunding works. If you're not willing to risk getting nothing in return for your money, then don't crowdfund. You need to evaluate the people proposing the project before deciding to trust them with your money. There should be no expectation of a refund if the project fails.

This is reasonable in general, but the expected narrative for "project fails" is something like "we can't make this" or "we needed more money than expected" or even just "we got bored, screw you". It does feel a bit different when the answer is "we took this as seed funding to go enter a totally different market, suckers!" Or in Jolla's case, "thanks for the money, asshole!"

There are plenty of markets with risks to the investors that still have boundaries. If a mutual fund picks badly and loses money, that's an issue for the investors. If a mutual fund turns out to be using your money on personal bets (like the London Whale) or simply stealing the money outright, that's a legal issue.

Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

mfoy_ wrote: post #39
opayen wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Access to all Android apps maybe?

So it's a Linux distro that offers native Android app support, sans-emulator? Was that the whole thing? Considering how... entrenched the OS market is, it's not easy to have a solid value proposition for creating a _new_ OS.

I mean ChromeOs is a thing right? They wanted to beat Google to the Apps on Desktop game

Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Post by roneythomas6 »

mfoy_ wrote: post #37

So... Android is built on the Linux kernel... and these people were making an "Android" PC OS? How is that not essentially just another Linux distro? What exactly, was the point?

It was more of an flavour(fork) of android than a linux distro. First they made installing android on x86 easy as installing linux or windows. Second they added desktop like launcher for android. So multiple apps can be open at same time and do window resize.

Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Post by kristiandupont »

StavrosK wrote: post #20
majewsky wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The entire crowdfunding platform is absurdity The totality of this statement is what's absurd. There's some good stuff on Kickstarter etc., but Sturgeon's Law applies: 90% of everything is crap.

No, it's crowdfunding itself that is absurd: You are literally pre-paying full price for a small chance that a product will actually be shipped to you. Imagine Amazon, but instead of next-day delivery you get next-year delivery and there's a 90% chance your product won't be delivered at all: That's what crowdfunding is . Traditionally, when funding a product, investors got a portion of the earnings to offset their ri…

Everything I've funded has been realized. Do you have something to back up that 90% figure?

But in any case, I don't see any problems with this. The terms are completely clear and I know what I am getting into. I fund projects because I want them to succeed but I am well aware that they might not. As long as I get the impression that it didn't fail because of foul play, I am happy.

Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Post by kogepathic »

Bartweiss wrote: post #41
coldpie wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, this is how crowdfunding works. If you're not willing to risk getting nothing in return for your money, then don't crowdfund. You need to evaluate the people proposing the project before deciding to trust them with your money. There should be no expectation of a refund if the project fails.

This is reasonable in general, but the expected narrative for "project fails" is something like "we can't make this" or "we needed more money than expected" or even just "we got bored, screw you". It does feel a bit different when the answer is "we took this as seed funding to go enter a totally different market, suckers!" Or in Jolla's case, "thanks for the money, asshole!" There are plenty of markets with risks to…

> If a mutual fund turns out to be using your money on personal bets (like the London Whale) or simply stealing the money outright, that's a legal issue.

Exactly, there's a difference between failure and fraud.

If you're soliciting donations to advance your OS development, then pitch the project as such. If you're promising backers a physical good, and then you decide to pivot, keep the money, and not deliver the backers anything or return their money, then people will obviously feel like you've defrauded them.

Unfortunately from a legal perspective, crowd funding backers have little to no legal recourse when businesses decide to use their contributions as an interest free loan for their other business operations.

Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

jaboutboul wrote: post #46

They should at a minimum open source all the closed pieces.

Open source isn't particularly appealing to a lot of enterprises, and now that they're focusing on that market, they have little to no reason to look for 'community contributions'. Giving away their special sauce isn't in their best interest.

If they were shutting down, open sourcing would be more likely.

Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued

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Post by Fnoord »

kemonocode wrote: post #29

So with Remix OS being effectively canned, what other alternatives do remain for Android on x86? I do know they were leveraging the efforts of the aptly-named Android-x86 project, but I don't know to which extent they did and the state of completeness of said project.

Bluestacks. Wikipedia entry here [1]. It works but it might have too much overhead for your needs though.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueStacks

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