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Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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Re: Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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and no word on how it moves. even bbc is going downhill :(

It seems to be rotating via reaction wheels (via this[0]). I haven't yet figured out how it translates, though. EDIT: if you have gravity available, the video on that site illustrates a clever way to use those reaction wheels to move around by tumbling. EDIT2: "for maneuvering around in space there are twelve electric micro-fans or μFans"[1]. The SE thread has a screenshot of a video which shows the placement of thos…

The use of fans is disappointing; that means it can't go outside. My first thought when seeing it is that it'd be great for doing external inspections, and could even have its own private little airlock to get in and out.

Maybe they could make a version with ionic thrusters, that stays outside all of the time. It could have a 'nest' where it parks and refuels when not in use.

Re: Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be rotating via reaction wheels (via this[0]). I haven't yet figured out how it translates, though. EDIT: if you have gravity available, the video on that site illustrates a clever way to use those reaction wheels to move around by tumbling. EDIT2: "for maneuvering around in space there are twelve electric micro-fans or μFans"[1]. The SE thread has a screenshot of a video which shows the placement of thos…

The use of fans is disappointing; that means it can't go outside. My first thought when seeing it is that it'd be great for doing external inspections, and could even have its own private little airlock to get in and out. Maybe they could make a version with ionic thrusters, that stays outside all of the time. It could have a 'nest' where it parks and refuels when not in use.

I'd imagine that'll come in time.

Easier to start inside, where you can pick it up if it runs out of batteries or glitches out. Less chance of poking a hole in something critical, as well.

Re: Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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Love the robot, but I'm uncomfortable at what I see as an implication in the article that now the astronauts should stop taking pictures and do more productive things instead. I'm pretty sure there's values to that activity beyond having photographic registrations to show afterwards. (I'm also not convinced the little ball of cuteness is anywhere close to matching their choice of scenes yet)

They'll should still have plenty of time for taking photos. Astronauts usually work a regular 8-ish hour work day up in the ISS and have weekends etc... 2 of those working hours each day are blocked out for exercise, too, so this should be a real boon.

They work 8 hours a day including exercise? That seems bizarre to me. I know we don't want them burning out, etc., but if we're sending astronauts up there at great expense I'd think we'd want to ask them to put in a little more than 8 hour days.

16 hours a day plus weekends seems like a ridiculous amount of free time given that there's no commuting, family time (other than calls), yard work, social engagements, etc.

Re: Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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Love the robot, but I'm uncomfortable at what I see as an implication in the article that now the astronauts should stop taking pictures and do more productive things instead. I'm pretty sure there's values to that activity beyond having photographic registrations to show afterwards. (I'm also not convinced the little ball of cuteness is anywhere close to matching their choice of scenes yet)

They'll should still have plenty of time for taking photos. Astronauts usually work a regular 8-ish hour work day up in the ISS and have weekends etc... 2 of those working hours each day are blocked out for exercise, too, so this should be a real boon.

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Re: Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'll should still have plenty of time for taking photos. Astronauts usually work a regular 8-ish hour work day up in the ISS and have weekends etc... 2 of those working hours each day are blocked out for exercise, too, so this should be a real boon.

They work 8 hours a day including exercise? That seems bizarre to me. I know we don't want them burning out, etc., but if we're sending astronauts up there at great expense I'd think we'd want to ask them to put in a little more than 8 hour days. 16 hours a day plus weekends seems like a ridiculous amount of free time given that there's no commuting, family time (other than calls), yard work, social engagements, etc.

Bear in mind that in space exercise is mandatory, because the lack of it considerably reduces the time a given person can spend there, which in turn would require more frequent launches, which are expensive.

Also - they're the best of the best. They sort of earned the privilege of not doing overtime.

Re: Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'll should still have plenty of time for taking photos. Astronauts usually work a regular 8-ish hour work day up in the ISS and have weekends etc... 2 of those working hours each day are blocked out for exercise, too, so this should be a real boon.

They work 8 hours a day including exercise? That seems bizarre to me. I know we don't want them burning out, etc., but if we're sending astronauts up there at great expense I'd think we'd want to ask them to put in a little more than 8 hour days. 16 hours a day plus weekends seems like a ridiculous amount of free time given that there's no commuting, family time (other than calls), yard work, social engagements, etc.

NASA is probably well aware of the extensive research showing that working more than 40 hours a week has negative productivity impacts.

https://hbr.org/2015/08/the-research-is-clear-long-hours-bac...

> In the 19th century, when organized labor first compelled factory owners to limit workdays to 10 (and then eight) hours, management was surprised to discover that output actually increased – and that expensive mistakes and accidents decreased. This is an experiment that Harvard Business School’s Leslie Perlow and Jessica Porter repeated over a century later with knowledge workers. It still held true. Predictable, required time off (like nights and weekends) actually made teams of consultants more productive.

The mistakes/accidents bit is especially compelling when talking about a $100 billion spacecraft.

Startup culture would do well to learn from this lesson.

See also: how NASA wrote software for the shuttle: https://www.fastcompany.com/28121/they-write-right-stuff

Re: Japan's zero-gravity space drone sends first pictures from ISS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They work 8 hours a day including exercise? That seems bizarre to me. I know we don't want them burning out, etc., but if we're sending astronauts up there at great expense I'd think we'd want to ask them to put in a little more than 8 hour days. 16 hours a day plus weekends seems like a ridiculous amount of free time given that there's no commuting, family time (other than calls), yard work, social engagements, etc.

Bear in mind that in space exercise is mandatory, because the lack of it considerably reduces the time a given person can spend there, which in turn would require more frequent launches, which are expensive. Also - they're the best of the best. They sort of earned the privilege of not doing overtime.

Also, let's not forget that overworking them has literally led to a "mutiny" in space before ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylab_mutiny
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