It's like a loan with no interest! How has no one done this before?
Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
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Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#32It's like a loan with no interest! How has no one done this before?
> How has no one done this before?
Lots of crowd funding projects have done this. Just look at the Jolla Tablet [0] if you want a concrete example of a company using backer's money as an interest free loan without delivering anything. Fortunately for Jide backers, they're actually receiving a refund. Jolla has been giving their backers excuses for why they cannot return the funds for the past 2.5 years.
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#33Why was this thread renamed? Now people have to guess that it might be about...
Edit: It's better now.
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The entire crowdfunding platform is absurdity The totality of this statement is what's absurd. There's some good stuff on Kickstarter etc., but Sturgeon's Law applies: 90% of everything is crap.
No, it's crowdfunding itself that is absurd: You are literally pre-paying full price for a small chance that a product will actually be shipped to you. Imagine Amazon, but instead of next-day delivery you get next-year delivery and there's a 90% chance your product won't be delivered at all: That's what crowdfunding is . Traditionally, when funding a product, investors got a portion of the earnings to offset their ri…
It's actually pretty solid for funding one-off art projects, like albums.
But for consumer goods I'm buying what you're selling here.
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#35Take money from 'community', develop using that and get famous, get enterprise funding, stop community project and return the 'community money'. Good idea.
From my experience seeing games on kickstarter, this is pretty much what is reasonable to expect. I mean the whole model is 1. Get money from community to fund game development 2. Sell the game again after, for extra profit, because why not And somewhere along the way there's usually a total mis-estimation of funds and resources At least here something was given back to the "community"... The entire crowdfunding plat…
> The entire crowdfunding platform is absurdity;
Not sure what you mean by this. Out of the 35 projects I've funded (some of which are games), only 2 have failed to deliver, and I've felt cheated by none. If what you say is true, I'm a better gauge of success than VC's picking startups that will be successful.
Maybe the problem isn't crowdfunding, but your expectations of it and how you go about judging whether you should give money or not.
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#36It's like a loan with no interest! How has no one done this before?
> How has no one done this before? Lots of crowd funding projects have done this. Just look at the Jolla Tablet [0] if you want a concrete example of a company using backer's money as an interest free loan without delivering anything. Fortunately for Jide backers, they're actually receiving a refund. Jolla has been giving their backers excuses for why they cannot return the funds for the past 2.5 years. [0] https://e…
I mean, this is how crowdfunding works. If you're not willing to risk getting nothing in return for your money, then don't crowdfund. You need to evaluate the people proposing the project before deciding to trust them with your money. There should be no expectation of a refund if the project fails.
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#37So... Android is built on the Linux kernel... and these people were making an "Android" PC OS? How is that not essentially just another Linux distro?
What exactly, was the point?
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#38So... Android is built on the Linux kernel... and these people were making an "Android" PC OS? How is that not essentially just another Linux distro? What exactly, was the point?
Access to all Android apps maybe?
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#39So... Android is built on the Linux kernel... and these people were making an "Android" PC OS? How is that not essentially just another Linux distro? What exactly, was the point?
Access to all Android apps maybe?
So it's a Linux distro that offers native Android app support, sans-emulator? Was that the whole thing?
Considering how... entrenched the OS market is, it's not easy to have a solid value proposition for creating a _new_ OS.
Re: Development on Remix OS and related consumer products is being discontinued
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The entire crowdfunding platform is absurdity The totality of this statement is what's absurd. There's some good stuff on Kickstarter etc., but Sturgeon's Law applies: 90% of everything is crap.
No, it's crowdfunding itself that is absurd: You are literally pre-paying full price for a small chance that a product will actually be shipped to you. Imagine Amazon, but instead of next-day delivery you get next-year delivery and there's a 90% chance your product won't be delivered at all: That's what crowdfunding is . Traditionally, when funding a product, investors got a portion of the earnings to offset their ri…
It's an interesting comment on crowdfunding that it's now being compared to Amazon. The original buzz around the idea was that it was a way to pay people to do something that might fail. Getting a product was almost beside the point -- you were patronising creative risk-taking. I'm interested in why this idea failed. Was it the scams? The naive people who promised to deliver the impossible?