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Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by delsarto »

rbranson wrote: post #14
neuronexmachina wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wonder when (if) they'll hit one-in-three bytes. I guess if Netflix ever switched from AWS to Google Cloud Platform...

99% of Netflix bytes are largely served from Netflix's own CDN + a cadre of third party CDNs. The bytes to/from AWS isn't trivial by itself but relatively negligible compared to video traffic.

There was a guy on Australian radio today saying that international traffic from Australia and NZ has decreased by about 70% over the past few years thanks to the ever-increasing usage of CDN's putting data, in most cases, within the ISPs network. Was something interesting I hadn't thought of.

He also mentioned that in NZ miserly data caps are really not implemented any more, since people just aren't using expensive transits as much (any NZ people confirm?)

Of course you wouldn't know about any of these savings by following the pricing of internet services in Australia. And the government seems intent on making anyone who cares for even basic privacy needing to tunnel their entire connection outside Australia (not to mention content providers and their geoblock rules).

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by SpaceManNabs »

milcron wrote: post #38
komali2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, that for me culminated when windows released a ubuntu subsystem. The names in order of popularity when it was originally announced (now they push for WSL) 1. Bash for Ubuntu on Windows 2. Windows Bash Shell 3. Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) Trying googling WSL - it's world surf league. Windows Bash Shell is impossible, so is Bash for Ubuntu on Windows. It's getting better as more and more articles are being w…

And the 3rd name is backwards. It ought to be called 'Linux Subsystem for Windows'.

THAT IS IT! I was wondering why the name always felt funky. Although the name they have now is technically correct if you ignore standard noun to adjective conventions.

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by snaily »

weberc2 wrote: post #40
deegles wrote: post #2

"one out of four bytes that are delivered to end users across the Internet originate from Google" Such a mind blowing statement. Wonder when (if) they'll hit one-in-three bytes.

Especially when you think of services like Netflix, Spotify, and online games which deliver lots of bytes that definitely don't originate from Google. Without these services, this must be closer to 1/2.

At least in the case of Spotify, I expect a large (and growing) chunk of their traffic to come from Google infrastructure: https://news.spotify.com/us/2016/02/23/announcing-spotify-in...

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by pavement »

SpaceManNabs wrote: post #42
milcron wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the 3rd name is backwards. It ought to be called 'Linux Subsystem for Windows'.

THAT IS IT! I was wondering why the name always felt funky. Although the name they have now is technically correct if you ignore standard noun to adjective conventions.

...or it's missing an apostrophe.

  a. Windows' Subsystem for Linux

  b. Window's Subsystem for Linux
Each option has its own sort of context.

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by ben_jones »

kbenson wrote: post #33
johnsmith21006 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube doubled in hours of video watched last year going from 500m to 1 billion hours daily. FB total video is 100m hours. So Google added 5x FB total. Netflix was about 128 million hours daily. So Google should get to 1 out of 3 pretty quickly.

Youtube has some really good content creators, and apparently they are getting paid. I've actually subscribed to a few channels finally that I look forward to seeing new releases in (CGP Grey, YSAC). My 7yo son is obsessed with the whole Let's Play phenomenon, and other associated minecraft content. I've looked up some of these people on Social Blade[1][2], and some of these people are likely making millions, but I c…

Content creators are mastering chopping up content into separate videos with enough continuity and hooks to keep people clicking next video, next video, next video...

It's quite scary actually what the current and future generations are being conditioned to do.

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by Ajedi32 »

emersonrsantos wrote: post #18

> But running a fast, efficient, hyperscale network for internal datacenters is not sufficient for a good user experience It will never be sufficient. A good backbone infrastructure doesn't compensate for the fact that the majority of users don't have ISP choices especially for fast speed fixed/mobile networks.

Hence, Google Fiber and Project Loon.

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by sbuttgereit »

milcron wrote: post #38
komali2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, that for me culminated when windows released a ubuntu subsystem. The names in order of popularity when it was originally announced (now they push for WSL) 1. Bash for Ubuntu on Windows 2. Windows Bash Shell 3. Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) Trying googling WSL - it's world surf league. Windows Bash Shell is impossible, so is Bash for Ubuntu on Windows. It's getting better as more and more articles are being w…

And the 3rd name is backwards. It ought to be called 'Linux Subsystem for Windows'.

I disagree. Microsoft is correct; mostly if not entirely.

Q: It's a subsystem? What kind of subsystem?

A: It's a Windows subsystem?

Q: A subsystem for what?

A: It's the Windows subsystem for Linux.

As another commentator mentioned, there's probably a missing possessive ("'s"), but even if we take the proper name to be more of an adjective modifying/qualifying "subsystem", it's a Windows subsystem, it's purpose is running Linux... the Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by userbinator »

komali2 wrote: post #29
trafficlight wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hate the naming trend over the past 10-15 years of using common words for projects. I can't really search for Espresso, or Jupiter, or Andromeda without additional qualifiers that I may not know yet.

Heh, that for me culminated when windows released a ubuntu subsystem. The names in order of popularity when it was originally announced (now they push for WSL) 1. Bash for Ubuntu on Windows 2. Windows Bash Shell 3. Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) Trying googling WSL - it's world surf league. Windows Bash Shell is impossible, so is Bash for Ubuntu on Windows. It's getting better as more and more articles are being w…

Indeed, it would've been far better if they called it WinBuntu Bash or some other similarly distinctive name.

...then again, WINE isn't exactly unique either.

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by tonmoy »

ben_jones wrote: post #45
kbenson wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube has some really good content creators, and apparently they are getting paid. I've actually subscribed to a few channels finally that I look forward to seeing new releases in (CGP Grey, YSAC). My 7yo son is obsessed with the whole Let's Play phenomenon, and other associated minecraft content. I've looked up some of these people on Social Blade[1][2], and some of these people are likely making millions, but I c…

Content creators are mastering chopping up content into separate videos with enough continuity and hooks to keep people clicking next video, next video, next video... It's quite scary actually what the current and future generations are being conditioned to do.

Have you heard of soap operas?

Re: How Google Wants to Rewire the Internet

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Post by drewg123 »

kbenson wrote: post #35
allannienhuis wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

netflix last year was reported at 37% in NA, so I suspect it will continue to be a contender as it gets more traction globally. http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/01/20/netflix-boasts-37-... 'peak download internet traffic' whatever that means.

The content may be Netflix, but it's delivered over CDNs, and much of that infrastructure isn't operated by Netflix. That's what the "originate" in the original statement is likely implying. Content ownership and access vs content delivery at a network level.

We (netflix) operate our own CDN. See https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/
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