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Re: Ask HN: How much are you earning as a freelance app developer?

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I have 3 API services, 2 desktop apps & 3 iOS+Android apps that I have developed over the course of 7 years after my CS engineering degree in a third world country, pretty much like the @throwawaytree here. My earnings are at average rounded converted to 6000 USD/month less server/misc. costs. I live with my parents(no rent) in a village in this state in India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala . I am 29. I think I…

How are your apps and services monetised?

Re: Ask HN: How much are you earning as a freelance app developer?

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I live in France. Beside my work, I take 4 weeks a year o teach software development (AngularJS, Spring, Struts, Apache CXF,...). The rates in France start at 300€/day (7hours).

Additionally, I develop apps (APIs, AngularJS apps, etc.) 10 to 20 hours a week (evenings + weekends) with rates starting at 35€/hour.

Re: Ask HN: How much are you earning as a freelance app developer?

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I make $7 US dollars an hour designing and developing apps as a full-time employee. I’m paying off a new car, pay rent, and live quite a good life compared to others in my country (third-world country). Compared to other countries salaries, mine is awful. Compared to local salaries, it’s actually about 4x the minimum wage. The cost of living here is quite low (I pay 150$ per month for a single bedroom with bathroom).…

My friend Jay El-Kaake and I wrote two books on freelance consulting. We would be happy to send you both copies for free. It is a shame, for a variety of reasons, that someone intelligent and competent is earning $7 USD hourly. Email zack@codefor.cash

I'm so much interested in that book to improve my business skills. Any reference?

Re: Ask HN: How much are you earning as a freelance app developer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My friend Jay El-Kaake and I wrote two books on freelance consulting. We would be happy to send you both copies for free. It is a shame, for a variety of reasons, that someone intelligent and competent is earning $7 USD hourly. Email zack@codefor.cash

I'm so much interested in that book to improve my business skills. Any reference?

If you're interested in my book, the link is in my profile; it has practical tips specifically for freelance programmers/developers/consultants/coders/software engineering people. But if you are purely interested in improving your business skills, then I recommend reading "The Personal MBA" by Josh Kaufman.

Also, I'm a developer but my father is a Silicon Valley business lawyer. He wrote a chapter of "The Software Engineer's Guide to Freelance Consulting" that is available for free. https://codefor.cash/legalideas

Re: Ask HN: How much are you earning as a freelance app developer?

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I make $7 US dollars an hour designing and developing apps as a full-time employee. I’m paying off a new car, pay rent, and live quite a good life compared to others in my country (third-world country). Compared to other countries salaries, mine is awful. Compared to local salaries, it’s actually about 4x the minimum wage. The cost of living here is quite low (I pay 150$ per month for a single bedroom with bathroom).…

Also working in a slightly "better" 3rd world country and my salary is 15$/h, while it's enough here, it becomes a problem when I travel, especially to 1st world countries.

Re: Ask HN: How much are you earning as a freelance app developer?

#59

From 120-180k over the last 5 years or so, typically doing prototypes and MVPs for startups across platforms. Almost every project involves web servers, web clients and mobile clients. Mostly self taught but also studied cognitive engineering which has helped a lot in understanding how to create systems and work with AI.

If you don't mind answering the usual questions, how'd you get your start, and how do you pick up clients?

A friend of mine invited me to help him start a non profit to apply natural language processing to detect violent rhetoric and bullying.

This was while I was working as a utility programmer and going to grad school.

While it never panned out for a number of reasons, it did get me introduced to the world of prototyping and I never looked back.

There have certainly been times of instability and there is no one there to lend a hand most times which can be intimidating.

One thing I try to do to get past the anxiety is make a new personal project when things get rough. So far it's worked out that those projects often lead to new opportunities and skills.

Being able to write the device, server and web client myself allows me to build concepts rapidly.

Re: Ask HN: How much are you earning as a freelance app developer?

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I'm an Android and Ruby on Rails dev and I've been working as a freelance for a couple of years now.

I am making quadruple the amount my peers are making in Eastern Europe while working less hours and remotely.

Most clients I get is through networks such as Toptal, which I would wholeheartedly recommend. I'm also a member of Gigster, which I can't quite recommend at the moment, and there is CodeControl and Povio labs which I would also recommend.

I think the best approach is to sign up for a number of these networks. It will definitely kickstart your freelance career and will help you have a constant stream of potential projects and offers.

However, do avoid websites such as Upwork or other networks which don't have a technical interview process as these are very likely flooded with extremely low-wage and/or low-quality workers. It is much harder to land a good client on these websites.

Here's my Toptal referral link: https://www.toptal.com/#work-with-the-best-programmers-today

But again, don't just apply there :)

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