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Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Why doesn't SoundCloud want my money ? There are no ads, and no paid plans for listeners. A lot of songs in my library disappear once the artist gets big and wants some cash from iTunes. I would have no problem paying for access to these songs but it's just not possible. I would also like to buy some band posters / t-shirts, vinyls, cds, show tickets etc, not possible either. It's like they are actively avoiding reve…

> There are no ads

There are ads. Audio ads between songs.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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It's okay, for everyone one like this, there's 1000's like me that pay for the service and use a fraction of it. Think of it as we are all contributing to keeping this data safe and available.

That is what they said about Amazon Cloud Drive and every other Unlimited service that came before it right up to the day the Unlimited Service died

Heres an idea then, don't make bullshit claims you cant back up.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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I've never thought about the medium thing. If you write a song (and perhaps perform it in public and everything), but never commit it into writing or recording, does copyright not apply?

What would the copyrights apply to if there's no recording?

Someone else could write it down and publish it without the author's permission.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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All you can eat is actually quite specific, but for knuckleheads like yourself it is usually clarified in writing in other places. It's all you can eat while at the establishment.. not all you can take. They don't advertise it as "unlimited" either as many places in busy markets have a posted time limit. This is clearly part of their terms of service as most buffets I know both clearly state that you can't use takeou…

>>All you can eat is actually quite specific, but for knuckleheads like yourself it is usually clarified in writing in other places. It's all you can eat while at the establishment.. How am I a "knuckle Head" in this situation, when I go to a buffet I eat a normal human portation of food inline with price I am charged for the meal I do not eat 25 plates full of prime rib for $5. I do not abuse business simply because…

Let's all calm down please.

Come to think of it, I'm mostly in agreement with you. I do feel there's a difference between "all you can eat buffet" and "unlimited storage" (or "lifetime warranties"). The former is more of a reasonable and well-explained offer; the latter is more of a bogus marketing claim. I detest bogus marketing claim.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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> but how is downloading any portion of artist's music not copyright infringement? I had the same issue with backing up Geocities when it went down. I figured better safe than sorry, established a very easy deletion procedure for the copyright holders and have received only a very small number of nastygrams compared to an absolutely enormous number of messages from people that were happy their content got saved. So a…

> So at a guess, yes it is copyright infringement, no, it will not lead to trouble because most people are able to recognize a good faith effort when they see it. A takedown notice from a few large commercial soundcloud users would probably be enough, no?

No, it wouldn't. You just take down their content, as is their right. If they sue they'll likely lose if they don't first send you a takedown notice but you are going to have to take that risk.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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And this is how Google Drive Unlimited becomes Google Drive Limited... Like every other Unlimited service, because people like this abuse the shit out of it then when it inevitably dies they run around exclaiming "dont blame me brah they said it was unlimited...., shouldn't have called it unlimited"

Well, companies should think twice before selling unlimited plans. Maybe set a really high cap that's enough to cover 90% of the users but unlimited means unlimited.

Why should the companies think twice? It's the users who end up suffering, not the companies. The companies will just put an end to abusive users or punish everyone uniformly by increasing prices.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

#187

Why doesn't SoundCloud want my money ? There are no ads, and no paid plans for listeners. A lot of songs in my library disappear once the artist gets big and wants some cash from iTunes. I would have no problem paying for access to these songs but it's just not possible. I would also like to buy some band posters / t-shirts, vinyls, cds, show tickets etc, not possible either. It's like they are actively avoiding reve…

Huh? There are both ads and paid plans for listeners, and I'm a subscriber.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

#188

Why doesn't SoundCloud want my money ? There are no ads, and no paid plans for listeners. A lot of songs in my library disappear once the artist gets big and wants some cash from iTunes. I would have no problem paying for access to these songs but it's just not possible. I would also like to buy some band posters / t-shirts, vinyls, cds, show tickets etc, not possible either. It's like they are actively avoiding reve…

Wondering this too. Why don't they sell tracks directly? I'm always wondering what various tracks are in the house mixes I listen to and would love to add them to my cart right there.

I imagine the problem with a feature like that could be that if they know what is in the mixes and they'd try to negotiate a deal for selling the tracks, they'd be asked to please pay or enforce payment of royalties for the tracks used in the mixes? (But I don't know to what extend they already do things like that/have deals in place)

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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> they are referring to unlimited PERSONAL Actually Google only offers unlimited to business and education accounts, so they're absolutely not referring to personal data.

Jesus H Christ.. People are too f'in litteral, first Unlimited === Store everything every created PERSONAL in the context of the discussion would include documents created by a person in general course of business, my point is very clearly and only pedantic trolls do not understand the meaning of point I was attempting to address. Business use would be for the business that signed up for the service, not for storing…

> Business use would be for the business that signed up for the service, not for storing an entire copy of SoundCloud

What if that business is Soundcloud? As far as I can tell, Google places no limits on business users, numerical or otherwise.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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>>All you can eat is actually quite specific, but for knuckleheads like yourself it is usually clarified in writing in other places. It's all you can eat while at the establishment.. How am I a "knuckle Head" in this situation, when I go to a buffet I eat a normal human portation of food inline with price I am charged for the meal I do not eat 25 plates full of prime rib for $5. I do not abuse business simply because…

Let's all calm down please. Come to think of it, I'm mostly in agreement with you. I do feel there's a difference between "all you can eat buffet" and "unlimited storage" (or "lifetime warranties"). The former is more of a reasonable and well-explained offer; the latter is more of a bogus marketing claim. I detest bogus marketing claim.

detest them all you want, advocate for companies not to use them but do not justify bad abusive behavior as a means to "call out" the companies.

2 wrongs do not make a right and all that.

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