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UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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This is primarily a kneejerk political reaction by a shambles of a Conservative party looking to be seen to be doing something on a "moral issue" by its party members.

I always wondered, why socialistic idealism is frowned upon asa idiocy but moralistic idealism is enshrined and a realizable utopia for conservatives.

Would you mind defining the two terms?

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

#152

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They are targeting all porn sites, commercial or not.

I don't think they are. From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40630582 "This, she explained, was because the Act does not tackle the fact that services including Twitter and Tumblr contain hardcore pornography but will not be required to introduce age-checks. " It's only commercial porn sites that are being targeted. Sites that happen to host pornographic content (e.g. tumblr, reddit etc) aren't included

I stopped reading the BBC 4 years ago because of their biased coverage. Here's a reputable source to my statement: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/nov/25/what-how-and...

The relevant section, "a sentence was slipped in that gives a regulator powers to act against sites “making prohibited material available on the internet to persons in the United Kingdom”" - That means any website hosting said content, whether they accept money or not.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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I don't think they are. From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40630582 "This, she explained, was because the Act does not tackle the fact that services including Twitter and Tumblr contain hardcore pornography but will not be required to introduce age-checks. " It's only commercial porn sites that are being targeted. Sites that happen to host pornographic content (e.g. tumblr, reddit etc) aren't included

I stopped reading the BBC 4 years ago because of their biased coverage. Here's a reputable source to my statement: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/nov/25/what-how-and... The relevant section, "a sentence was slipped in that gives a regulator powers to act against sites “making prohibited material available on the internet to persons in the United Kingdom”" - That means any website hosting said content, wheth…

yeah I think that article's a little old and doesn't reflect the actuality of what was placed in .

From the lords debate on the topic https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2017-02-02/debates/D2C24...

"However, I want to mention briefly user-generated material on social media, an issue that naturally arises in debating this Bill if we are told that it will not cover it, despite a vast amount of hardcore porn that can easily be viewed by anyone, including young children, being just a couple of clicks away. "

They mention tumblr/facebook being included but only when showing "commcercial" material, which appears to be the differentiating factor so sites like reddit wouldn't be generally in-scope.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

#154

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I stopped reading the BBC 4 years ago because of their biased coverage. Here's a reputable source to my statement: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/nov/25/what-how-and... The relevant section, "a sentence was slipped in that gives a regulator powers to act against sites “making prohibited material available on the internet to persons in the United Kingdom”" - That means any website hosting said content, wheth…

yeah I think that article's a little old and doesn't reflect the actuality of what was placed in . From the lords debate on the topic https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2017-02-02/debates/D2C24... "However, I want to mention briefly user-generated material on social media, an issue that naturally arises in debating this Bill if we are told that it will not cover it, despite a vast amount of hardcore porn that can ea…

I stand corrected. Thank you. The next question is, "What is social media?". What about sites where the content is user generated but those users are compensated in tokens which are exchangeable for real money? Is that commercial or social?

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

#155

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I stopped reading the BBC 4 years ago because of their biased coverage. Here's a reputable source to my statement: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/nov/25/what-how-and... The relevant section, "a sentence was slipped in that gives a regulator powers to act against sites “making prohibited material available on the internet to persons in the United Kingdom”" - That means any website hosting said content, wheth…

yeah I think that article's a little old and doesn't reflect the actuality of what was placed in . From the lords debate on the topic https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2017-02-02/debates/D2C24... "However, I want to mention briefly user-generated material on social media, an issue that naturally arises in debating this Bill if we are told that it will not cover it, despite a vast amount of hardcore porn that can ea…

Here's a reference to what was actually passed, which confirms your statement: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachm...

In section 2.1, "All providers of online pornography, who are making available pornographic material to persons in the United Kingdom on a commercial basis, will be required to comply with the age-verification requirement​." So advertising funded sites fall outside the remit.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

#156

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yeah I think that article's a little old and doesn't reflect the actuality of what was placed in . From the lords debate on the topic https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2017-02-02/debates/D2C24... "However, I want to mention briefly user-generated material on social media, an issue that naturally arises in debating this Bill if we are told that it will not cover it, despite a vast amount of hardcore porn that can ea…

I stand corrected. Thank you. The next question is, "What is social media?". What about sites where the content is user generated but those users are compensated in tokens which are exchangeable for real money? Is that commercial or social?

indeed, one of the many grey areas that will be "interesting" for the new regulator to look at when they're created...

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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This has probably very little to do with porn and is most likely the first step in the UK's government attempt to track more closely who is accessing what on the internet and even have the power to blacklist and make inaccessible areas of the internet they deem inappropriate or inconvenient. The enforceability of this is hugely questionable (they have heard of VPN right?) and the societal benefit of less porn is also…

This is primarily a kneejerk political reaction by a shambles of a Conservative party looking to be seen to be doing something on a "moral issue" by its party members.

No it isn't, this has been brewing for years.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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some young people don't realize that some fairly disgusting and extreme sex acts are not the norm and start dating thinking that is what you do instead of loving someone Banning porn doesn't even begin to address that problem. People talk. They boast about what they do, and the more naive people go ahead and do those things too because they believe that's what they should be doing. That's true in everything , not jus…

People talk. They boast about what they do, and the more naive people go ahead and do those things too because they believe that's what they should be doing. This happens to be why my company is using a NoSQL database in one of its new projects.

I hope you verified the interns' ages.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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This is, of course, completely barmy regulation. The most interesting thing will be the decision over what classifies as a porn website. Currently, as a teenager, you're probably most likely to 'stumble across' (i.e. view unintentionally) pornography on non-porn sites like Reddit or Tumblr. Will the regulations require age verification for these sites? If not it will not even begin to achieve its stated aims.

AFAIK it's commercial sites only, so you're dead right this legislation has failed before they even try and implement it.

Is reddit commercial? You can pay for reddit gold and of course they make money on ads, although they don't make money on porn directly. How about imgur? They host a staggering amount of porn yet are not a porn website - how could they regulate that? How about erotic fan fiction websites where it's 100% text? How about ones where it's just hentai?

It's just an idiotic legislations that most likely has nothing to do with porn - it just wants to establish a framework on which the government can ban anything it doesn't like.

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