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Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by _jal »

dexterdog wrote: post #86
rnhmjoj wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, companies should think twice before selling unlimited plans. Maybe set a really high cap that's enough to cover 90% of the users but unlimited means unlimited.

90% would likely be covered by a TB or 2. That would not work for marketing.

It is amusing to trace the arguments in this thread. We went from "abusing unlimited storage is why we can't have nice things" to "well, don't call it unlimited if it isn't" to "but marketing doesn't like that".

This is why I so strongly prefer services that don't bullshit me. Tell me what you're exactly selling, for how much[1]. If promise to livestream setting your marketing department on fire, I'll pay double.

[1] If it is free, I already know what it costs and am not interested, thanks.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by pavel_lishin »

syshum wrote: post #106
jackvalentine wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when it inevitably dies they run around exclaiming "dont blame me brah they said it was unlimited...., shouldn't have called it unlimited" Well... yeah? If you let people advertise 'unlimited' but they can't actually deliver, you end up with a kind of market for lemons situation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons

Except for the fact that when Google, Amazon and the rest talk about "unlimited" they are referring to unlimited PERSONAL storage of data you create as a person, this would include backups of your personal computer, photos, important documents,etc Not backing up SoundCloud or the entire Internet for $5 a month

I didn't create my tax documents, I didn't create the professionally shot photos of my kid, and it's arguable whether it was truly I that created KSP game save files. I definitely didn't create a lot of the work documents that end up living there, either.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by captbaritone »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #128
wastedhours wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would work for marketing if you can't compete on the raw number game is framing the amount - like Apple did with "1000 songs in your pocket". If you want to design a cap - Goog probably has an idea of the kinds of file people store (whether it's pics or docs or videos or sheets etc...), pick a number of those that's impressive and is just lower than what your 10% power users has, and then use that to influence t…

I prefer "libraries of Congress" as my storage unit of choice.

I suppose a new storage unit is in order: "SoundClouds".

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by voltagex_ »

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #140

How can tracks be downloaded when many of them are pay-to-access? or stream-only?

Generally, if you "stream" (send) me bits, they're mine to do what I want with (practically, maybe not legally).

Although, if anyone could tell me how to do that with AES-SAMPLE HLS video, I'd be very happy.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by intoverflow2 »

Steeeve wrote: post #85

If these kind of entities actually want to preserve resources, they shouldn't be generating a petabyte of bandwidth charges. Contact soundcloud and come to an agreement that will be responsible.

Probably legal issues with Soundcloud offloading the data.

This way they can skate the rules and save the data.

Plus startups on the way out usually want to use their data as a bargaining chip to sell whatever remains of the service off, if they give it away they lose that chip.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by voltagex_ »

streamspeek wrote: post #102

I'd recommend transcoding to 96kb/s VBR Ogg Opus during crawling.

Why? You increase the CPU requirements of the crawl, lose quality from an already low bitrate file and then have to QA the new encode. All for a very small decrease in filesize.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by wambotron »

CharlesDodgson wrote: post #56

Does anyone feel that this is all a bit pointless. Like is there a greater social need to preserve SC? I found a lot of the content to ephemeral, things like podcasts or DJ mixes. I dunno, it just seems a bit silly to put resources on it.

I have my own personal recordings up there (although they're also on bandcamp and I still have them backed up). I know of a lot of people who use it to host their music. It's not just podcasts and remixes.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by iagooar »

vasanthv wrote: post #46
chinathrow wrote: post #7

What's the current context here? Is SoundCloud going away anytime soon?

Soundcloud CEO says no its not going away anytime soon. https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/14/soundcloud-ceo-r...

Would they say it if they knew it, though?

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by Camille34 »

idbehold wrote: post #92
dexterdog wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

90% would likely be covered by a TB or 2. That would not work for marketing.

Over a million megabytes of storage!

I get paid over $95 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I'd be able to do it but my best friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me to try. The potential with this is endless. Heres what I've been doing, •••••••••>>http://cutt.us/7N2sG

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by Qub3d »

radarsat1 wrote: post #139

Their website seems to be down: I'm just wondering, are they downloading everything accessible through the player, or just songs marked "Download"? Even given that they could restrict themselves to songs marked okay to download, how much of that will be DJ mixes containing copyrighted songs? I'm just wondering because Soundcloud actually has support to specify your copyright terms, which does not default to "everyone…

I can only access it intermittently. Here is the google cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eCl5VSB...

In response to your concerns; I think ArchiveTeam simply doesn't care. They are very firm in their convictions, and they don't exactly listen to requests to not archive things.[0]

If you're curious, here[1] is the initial discussion that AT had. People bring up copyright concerns.

[0]:http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fmhU2zS...

[1]:http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam?da...

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