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Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

#11

What's the current context here? Is SoundCloud going away anytime soon?

That's at least the fear of many musicians, DJs and of the existing (but reportedly shrinking) user base after a recent round of layoffs and reports that SoundCloud's money will run out in Q4.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

#13
I'm interested in people's opinions on the legality of this. They mention "Archive Team considers the SoundCloud service in danger and, as it hosts a lot of original content, finds it important to prepare to save it selectively (a full grab would be too big and would raise concerns of mass copyright infringement).", but how is downloading any portion of artist's music not copyright infringement?

I've written my own Soundcloud offline audio player, but didn't distribute it because it was against their TOS.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

#14

Archiveteam seems like a really cool project, what I was wondering (and couldn't find in the FAQ) is who is paying for all the storage? Is it donated by big tech companies?

A decent amount eventually ends up at archive.org

[not all, because archive.ort needs to be a bit more careful, but they have a decent symbiotic relationship]

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

#16
The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that Archiveteam are actually detrimental (in the long run) to the well-being of the Internet.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work they do, and without them lots of content would simply disappear. But solving this problem should be at the core of the protocol itself (Xanadu, anyone?[1]), not depending on the resources and goodwill of a single team.

Just like IPv6, I don't think the problem will be solved as long as there's a patch that somehow works.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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I'm interested in people's opinions on the legality of this. They mention "Archive Team considers the SoundCloud service in danger and, as it hosts a lot of original content, finds it important to prepare to save it selectively (a full grab would be too big and would raise concerns of mass copyright infringement).", but how is downloading any portion of artist's music not copyright infringement? I've written my own S…

Maybe they're only pulling either indie stuff with no copyright, or the rarer stuff that they're less likely to get in trouble over.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Hmm, I've been playing with IPFS lately, and just had an idea: Since IPFS is perfect for archival, Archiveteam could put their files on IPFS, and users could help out by pinning stuff on their local nodes. For example, I could ask their website to give me a 10 GB list of files to pin (if I wanted to "donate" 10 GB to them), and I'd keep them available. The only problem is that I don't know whether IPFS has any way to…

ArchiveTeam is putting the files in the Internet Archive archives. While IPFS is great, I'm not sure I agree it's good for archival because it depends on the availability of the IPFS network. The Internet Archive does work to make sure that there are sufficent backups to mean they can recreate their archive.

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Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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I don't know whether SoundCloud does not have a huge, Wikipediaesque donation banner on every page illustrating the severity of their financial situation; it's embarassing for them, but think of it like this: the artists have a right to know that the platform that manages their life's work needs their support.

"I don't know whether SoundCloud does not have a huge, Wikipediaesque donation banner on every page illustrating the severity of their financial situation" Maybe because they are profit-oriented company that raised hundreds of million USD in venture capital. Asking for donations would be kinda unethical, and the founders would know that. However, if SoundCloud somehow would be transformed into a non-profit organizati…

So you're saying Richard Hendricks' New Internet should be used to keep Soundcloud afloat?
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