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Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that's 385 / month revenue? On a setup that's what, $3400 to buy, for seven 1070s? Seems like asking for 10 months to cover capex is a bit thin, given the price instability.

High risk, high reward. If you buy the average piece of real estate and rent it out, you are looking at 30+ years to cover the cost. You can also lose it all (housing bubble) or quadruple your investment (investing in SF 10 years ago)

Which is why you use leverage...

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

#72
post #12

Good, maybe video cards will start to come back in stock at their MSRP.

Or maybe people will actually develop things that //require// generic algorithms, and multiple diversity of them so that it /forces/ generic hardware proliferation.

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

#73
In case anyone is not aware, there are user-friendly tools (that take their cut) which ensure maximum mining profitability for available hardware.

NiceHash, MinerGate, Awesome Miner and others - many have an affiliate program and fight against botnets (and antivirus often block the actual mining programs they download).

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

#75
post #63

All I can think of is the careless environmental impact of all that dirty electricity consumption. For, let's be honest, a mostly speculative activity. One cryptocurrency crashes, another gets hyped up, and the computational cycle repeats. When will it end.

Is the energy expended in crypto currency mining less valuable than that expended by the traditional financial sector?

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

#76

Off topic, but the "ETH/USD" label on the price graph bothers me. Shouldn't it be USD/ETH? https://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2017/07/16083553143... 150 ETH/USD would mean that you can get 150 coins per 1 USD. On the other hand, 150 USD/ETH correctly captures the mathematical relationship.

Imagine the worth of ETH and USD denominated in ISK.

    ETH in ISK = 16524.55
    USD in ISK = 103.42

    ETH / USD
    (1 * ETH) / (1 * USD)       # Multiplicative identity
    16524.55 ISK / 103.42 ISK   # Expand to ISK
    16524.55     / 103.42       # Cancellation of units
    159.78                      # Division

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

#79
post #78

I thought ethereum would move to Proof of State from Proof of Work which will make mining as it's obsolete. https://www.ethnews.com/proof-of-work-vs-proof-of-stake-expl...

Yes, although my understanding is that the transition will be gradual. PoW rewards will gradually decrease while PoS rewards gradually increase, facilitating the tranisitioon without all miners jumping ship. Miners who are invested in Ethereum may choose to convert their mining profits into stake.

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

#80
post #43
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Miners shouldn't be meaningfully exposed since they can sell off their ETH as soon as they mine it (deposit it to an exchange address and sell off every few minutes via an API, or something like that). And while ETH might crash enough to make it no longer profitable and risking your capex, you can switch your GPU to mine whatever is most profitable, so you're more diversified than it looks and insulated from the inst…

If Eth crashes (more) and bitcoin continues to drop, no crypto is going to be worth anything.

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