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Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Just took a quick look at this. If you are located in the 'mining valley' of Washington where power is ~2c/kwh you are still getting healthy profits. A computer with 7 GTX 1070 graphics cards should produce ~230 mh/s and draw 1 kw. This would cost approximately $30/month in power factoring in kw demand + cooling. The above setup will currently generate $385/month in ETH. So basically for miners who are in the right s…

Average price paid for electricity in many regions is 20 cents/kwh. Just using your numbers that translates into $300/month in costs for under $400 in ETH. At the national average it would be $200/month by rough math.

In downtown Manhattan, maybe. In most other places near a power station, it's not.

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Average price paid for electricity in many regions is 20 cents/kwh. Just using your numbers that translates into $300/month in costs for under $400 in ETH. At the national average it would be $200/month by rough math.

2 cents, not 20.

It depends on region, some are 20 cents, national average is 13.7 according to https://www.bls.gov/regions/new-york-new-jersey/news-release...

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Just took a quick look at this. If you are located in the 'mining valley' of Washington where power is ~2c/kwh you are still getting healthy profits. A computer with 7 GTX 1070 graphics cards should produce ~230 mh/s and draw 1 kw. This would cost approximately $30/month in power factoring in kw demand + cooling. The above setup will currently generate $385/month in ETH. So basically for miners who are in the right s…

Sorry noob question, but if you don't pay for power at your apartment could you run a rig for just the cap x to get started?

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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GPU trading? More profitable than buying the underlying currency since GPU's in relatively good condition always hold a certain value? High levels of correlation with BTC and ETH, along with other cryptocurrency, but a floor on how low it can go. Pays off while holding by mining coins. Much like a dividend.

What makes you say there's a floor?

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Just took a quick look at this. If you are located in the 'mining valley' of Washington where power is ~2c/kwh you are still getting healthy profits. A computer with 7 GTX 1070 graphics cards should produce ~230 mh/s and draw 1 kw. This would cost approximately $30/month in power factoring in kw demand + cooling. The above setup will currently generate $385/month in ETH. So basically for miners who are in the right s…

Sorry noob question, but if you don't pay for power at your apartment could you run a rig for just the cap x to get started?

Yes, but this is how you get evicted.

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Average price paid for electricity in many regions is 20 cents/kwh. Just using your numbers that translates into $300/month in costs for under $400 in ETH. At the national average it would be $200/month by rough math.

2 cents, not 20.

2 cents is an abnormality. Europeans pay around 20 cents per kwh on average.

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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GPU trading? More profitable than buying the underlying currency since GPU's in relatively good condition always hold a certain value? High levels of correlation with BTC and ETH, along with other cryptocurrency, but a floor on how low it can go. Pays off while holding by mining coins. Much like a dividend.

Computer hardware depreciates rapidly, and is expensive to trade(shipping/testing/labour).

It depreciates to a point. An i7 2600 depreciated about half its value when the next generation came out, but 5 years later it still sells used for 40% of its MSRP. The era of older chips being downright worthless passed circa anything since ~2006.

The start of that era for GPUs was much more recent because they matured much more into recent times, but I would easily say anything from the AMD 4000 series or the Nvidia 400 series and up has held value long term.

There is also some "classic" rebound for parts once they drop off the retail market. If a specific component in a system from 2012 dies, be it the motherboard; processor; or ram, the supply of replacement parts will gradually dwindle over time as old hardware breaks down. It makes what you have all the more valuable.

I still have a near-complete Nehalem desktop with the original i7 920, which has a used retail price of around $30 (it depreciated a lot more than the aforementioned i7 2600k because there were still substantial IPC improvements between their generations) but my x58 deluxe motherboard can still be sold used for about $150-200. It has had a depreciation in 9 years of only about 30% from what I paid for it. Meanwhile the ram is almost worthless, mostly because DDR3 is still available in retail.

This is also why its usually recommended to either buy new or buy the immediate last generation hardware on the cheap. Anything older becomes a scarce resource for repair purposes and can maintain value as such.

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Sorry noob question, but if you don't pay for power at your apartment could you run a rig for just the cap x to get started?

Yes, but this is how you get evicted.

And I can attest to learning this lesson personally in 2012.

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Its mostly RX series that are being sold off and the reason for that is the ever-increasing Ethereum DAG size. I dont know the specifics, but due to the DAG size the ETH hash rate on AMD RX400/500s is starting to slowly drop, and will be behind the performance of their Nvidia counter-parts in a few months time. (Source: I run a mining operation.)

Isn't it only the 4GB RX cards that will get worse for mining? Or is it that the GPU memory bandwidth is less on AMD cards?

Re: Used GPUs flood the market as Ethereum's price drops below $150

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Yes, but this is how you get evicted.

And I can attest to learning this lesson personally in 2012.

lol, sorry, but how long until your landlord contacted you? What was the conversation like? I'd would have said, sorry running servers for my internet business.
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