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Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

#41
The other side of the story - US and NATO tried to overthrow the Turkish president, and turn Turkey into Syria, 2 times in a row just recently. They also attempted to start a war between Turkey and Russia just before these attempts.

Now that this has all failed, and Turkey is aligning with Russia geo-politically, this does need to be taken into consideration when talking about propaganda and what really is happening.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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I don't understand what the problem is. How is this any different from the Queen of England taking over the entire UK airwaves for a half-hour speech on Christmas Day? /s

The difference is you can opt to not listen to the Queen, here you have no other choice, the message is played for any call you make.

Can you opt not to have a Queen and not be a subject to some royal family you never voted for or agreed to?

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

#43

The other side of the story - US and NATO tried to overthrow the Turkish president, and turn Turkey into Syria, 2 times in a row just recently. They also attempted to start a war between Turkey and Russia just before these attempts. Now that this has all failed, and Turkey is aligning with Russia geo-politically, this does need to be taken into consideration when talking about propaganda and what really is happening…

Credible sources on that overthrow thing please.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is you can opt to not listen to the Queen, here you have no other choice, the message is played for any call you make.

Can you opt not to have a Queen and not be a subject to some royal family you never voted for or agreed to?

Yes. The UK could vote to abolish the monarchy, but they haven't. In a typical democracy, you are subject to laws that you didn't vote for or "agree to". A modern constitutional monarchy is a structure agreed to by the people.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is you can opt to not listen to the Queen, here you have no other choice, the message is played for any call you make.

To play devil's advocate: you can opt to not listen to Erdogan, just wait until he is finished. I believe he's right, the Queen's message is similar.

Devils devils advocate here :) It's part of the nature of radio that you are in control of the channel, but not the message heard, as it's controlled by programming - the other kind of programming. This is dissimilar to telephone where a specific channel (number) is uniquely expected to reach a specific person, company, or household.

Thus the analogy breaks twofold. First, while the radio works as expected under these conditions, the telephone does not. Secondly, opting out means to take some action without affecting anything else than what you are opting out from. If you consider opting out in this context, it's clear that waiting can not be considered to be an action we take, and thus can't be considered a way of opting out, our waiting in line could be considered to be "opting out of standing in line", an obvious contradiction.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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post #45

I wonder how would things have been if Turket had been accepted to EU 10 years ago. Would it have helped?

Turkey has been powerful when it had the "Islamic World" under its stewardship. Being EU member would have improved the hand of "Secularists" for few years or so. Given the unraveling of EU experiment it would have at best delayed certain things, sooner or later in a generation the Turkey will look more like the Ottoman era both in its power and projection than it was for much of 20th century.

So broadly speaking, NO.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did play a message from Ergodan when you call any number but only for clients of 2 mobile operators: Turkcell and Vodafone. http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/telefonla-konusmak-isteyenlere-er... Link in turkish but it confirms what this post says.

Implementations for something as "innovative" as this are bound to be spotty early on. Is there even pre-existing infrastructure/services/software support in typical networks for stunts like this or was this something they had to build? Did they need to involve their network infra suppliers? For Turkcell that's fully outsourced to Ericsson; network hardware, services implementation, ops, etc etc; pretty much everythi…

That engineer would probably be Greek since Ericsson has outsourced a lot of the dev work on MSC/VLRs there. I remember working on a feature that allowed a user to copy the music they listened while waiting and play it when someone called them.

As for the ethical implication there's none. This exact functionality would be extremely helpful in case of an actual emergency.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

#50
Have anybody thought why you hear the sound(beeeep-beeeeep-....) when you make a call and from where it comes? Yes, telco can put anything there. Even more, I wounder why we do not hear some commercial Ad's every time we call. This would be in a spirit of current times...
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