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Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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I didn't wanted to started this flamewar. But i have to discuss this because my country is under attack from insane right wing mentality when in our country we have great opportunities and great universities. Even Mirzakhani addressed this issue. You can search about it. When she talks about how people in Western countries think about Iran as jungle which every men burns USA flags every day and chants "death to Ameri…

(Edit: the above comment has been edited to say "I didn't wanted to start this flamewar". Originally it said "I wanted to start this flamewar". Probably this was just a language misfire and that's fine, but since there were objections below I should make clear that my reply was posted prior to the edit, as you can see from the bit that I quoted.) > I wanted to started this flamewar. Because my country is under attack…

At least by my reading, 0xFFC's comment wasn't particularly nationalistic. He or she wasn't putting Iran above other nations or expressing loyalty or devotion to the Iranian state (in fact by calling out "the regime" I'd say it was the opposite of that). I understand wanting to avoid flamewars, but I think you're putting the blame on the wrong person here.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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More and more Americans understand that anti-Iranian sentiment here is mainly due to propaganda, not any rational considerations. Iran should be a natural ally of the US.

I hope you're right. I have met quite a few Iranians here in the States and it often leaves me feeling very sad that government & media rhetoric is so negative and narrow-sighted. Another example of how the macro reality we create can become massively misaligned with ground-level truths.

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Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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I took her hyperbolic geometry class last year (my senior year at Stanford) and she looked perfectly healthy. She even gave me some advice on my grad school offers. What a shock...

I wrote many things just now. There is nothing to say. Life sucks. Deepest sympathy to all her knew or met or were inspired by her.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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>I respect your country. Nevertheless this violates HN's rules and if you do it again we will ban you. Genuinely asking, which rules? Sorry i need to clarify what I meant by country. I don't respect flags and idea. So we can both agree i am not nationalist. I don't respect the idea of iran or USA or etc. I respect humanity. By country what I meant was the people. Out people (take for example students m) are under fie…

These rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Especially the rules regarding civility, politics, and intellectual curiosity, which are the most important ones. Nationalistic flamewar—which you started—is the essence of all that we don't want here, regardless of how well-intentioned you are. Life-and-death questions of national identity are far stronger and more important than the things that gratify…

I have to agree with the others who commented and say I don't think 0xFFC violate the spirit of the rule. We are better off for his comments.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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>I respect your country. Nevertheless this violates HN's rules and if you do it again we will ban you. Genuinely asking, which rules? Sorry i need to clarify what I meant by country. I don't respect flags and idea. So we can both agree i am not nationalist. I don't respect the idea of iran or USA or etc. I respect humanity. By country what I meant was the people. Out people (take for example students m) are under fie…

These rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Especially the rules regarding civility, politics, and intellectual curiosity, which are the most important ones. Nationalistic flamewar—which you started—is the essence of all that we don't want here, regardless of how well-intentioned you are. Life-and-death questions of national identity are far stronger and more important than the things that gratify…

I would like to add that I also don't see anything wrong with his posts. It is a humanizing comment about the people of a country

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Iranian here, one point I really want to mention is following despite our theocratic regime, really I have to mention, Iran is not Suadi Arabia or anything like that. Girls and Boys do get the almost exactly same education, they have great opportunity to be a successful scholar in any branch of science they want (yes, It is like USA, your parent demographic will decide which university you most like end up into. But…

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Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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>I respect your country. Nevertheless this violates HN's rules and if you do it again we will ban you. Genuinely asking, which rules? Sorry i need to clarify what I meant by country. I don't respect flags and idea. So we can both agree i am not nationalist. I don't respect the idea of iran or USA or etc. I respect humanity. By country what I meant was the people. Out people (take for example students m) are under fie…

These rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Especially the rules regarding civility, politics, and intellectual curiosity, which are the most important ones. Nationalistic flamewar—which you started—is the essence of all that we don't want here, regardless of how well-intentioned you are. Life-and-death questions of national identity are far stronger and more important than the things that gratify…

dang, this is literally the first time I recall ever seeing a mod respond like this, and I've seen some pretty off-topic comments before.

The comment was pretty darn civil, we've had political discussions all the time, and you know better than I do that not every well-received comment in HN sparks "intellectual curiosity".

Furthermore, for the life of me I don't see the "flamewar" that was started here. It seems more like you started the flames by threatening an immediate ban. So I'm a little shocked to see you reply like this. You could've just said the comment is off-topic and deleted it quietly, but to suddenly call it a nationalistic flamewar... I don't see how you expect people to take that.

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