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Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by peacemaker »

soham wrote: post #63
mailshanx wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "... and also make staggeringly high offer" How high are we talking about? Let's say around ~5 yrs exp dev who would otherwise be considered intermediate level elsewhere spends the equivalent of 3-6 months of full time effort in preparation: what comp can such a candidate expect to negotiate in the big4/5?

For that level of experience, and a great interview performance, big-5 easily cross $225k/yr in total comp. Often much more.

$225k?? For 5 years experience? Not a chance.

You might get somewhere around $100k though which is still a very nice salary in most places. Up to $150k in major hubs.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by Unbeliever69 »

ozanonay wrote: post #42

Hi! I'm one of the instructors at Bradfield: https://bradfieldcs.com . We teach computer science to strong programmers, typically those who were self taught, attended bootcamps or weren't quite satisfied with their conventional CS experience. We teach in small classes, strictly in person in SF. I know this sucks for folk (like OP) who are outside SF, but honestly you can't teach this stuff to a high enough standard r…

I highly recommend teachyourselfcs.com. It is by far the best self-taught cs resource online!

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by yamalight »

Shameless self-promotion:

If you are interested in front-end and/or node.js courses (javascript, react, webpack, all that kind of stuff) - I've been doing a free open source course called "Building products with javascript" [1] that is aimed at intermediate/advanced developers who want to learn javascript more in-depth.

[1] https://github.com/yamalight/building-products-with-js

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by closeparen »

peacemaker wrote: post #71
soham wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For that level of experience, and a great interview performance, big-5 easily cross $225k/yr in total comp. Often much more.

$225k?? For 5 years experience? Not a chance. You might get somewhere around $100k though which is still a very nice salary in most places. Up to $150k in major hubs.

There are no "most places" for the companies mentioned above, and certainly no places that aren't major hubs.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by PagingCraig »

ozanonay wrote: post #42

Hi! I'm one of the instructors at Bradfield: https://bradfieldcs.com . We teach computer science to strong programmers, typically those who were self taught, attended bootcamps or weren't quite satisfied with their conventional CS experience. We teach in small classes, strictly in person in SF. I know this sucks for folk (like OP) who are outside SF, but honestly you can't teach this stuff to a high enough standard r…

Know of any good alternatives for people outside of CA?

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by jbotch »

ozanonay wrote: post #42

Hi! I'm one of the instructors at Bradfield: https://bradfieldcs.com . We teach computer science to strong programmers, typically those who were self taught, attended bootcamps or weren't quite satisfied with their conventional CS experience. We teach in small classes, strictly in person in SF. I know this sucks for folk (like OP) who are outside SF, but honestly you can't teach this stuff to a high enough standard r…

Current student who would also highly recommend Bradfield.

If you're a mostly self-taught engineer lacking foundational CS knowledge (I personally have a minor in CS; most of my colleagues at Bradfield went through a bootcamp) you will very quickly discover and confront the gaps in your knowledge.

Regardless of your title at work (maybe level II engineer, tech lead, whatever), you will be made to feel like a beginner in short order when they ask you to write programs that manipulate bytes, that deal with concurrency, or do anything more nitty gritty than manipulate JSON in your high-level language of choice...while disorienting initially, I personally have found Bradfield to be one of the most illuminating and rewarding educational experiences of my career.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by luckycharms810 »

Highly recommend 'Design of Computer Programs' on Udacity. Its a 300 level class taught by Peter Norvig, and while the quizzes and homework's aren't terribly challenging, its a great way to learn how to break down problems for an intermediate developer.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by throwawayjava »

seangrogg wrote: post #56
kevmo wrote: post #39

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I think it makes sense to not accept brand-new bootcamp grads. That subset of people should already be able to at least get on a junior web or QA engineer position and will be better served by actually getting out there and doing it. Going straight into one of these programs would be the equivalent of getting a Master's just because you don't know what to do after getting your Bachelor's.

> Going straight into one of these programs would be the equivalent of getting a Master's just because you don't know what to do after getting your Bachelor's. In all fairness, isn't this exactly the situation for most of the people pursuing their Master's?

No, at least not in CS at "good universities". Jobs are too easy to come by for this pattern (which is more common for humanities majors I think).

In CS It's a combo of people playing the immigration game and people looking to one up their credentials and/or network. Which is different from "don't know what I want to do".

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