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Re: Redis 4.0

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I really wish Redis wouldn't use the "master/slave" terminology. Primary/replica or even Master/replica are better terms. I know I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but it's a pox on a project that I otherwise very much love.

Volunteer to fight against ISIS if you really care about abolishing slavery on earth. Edit: Donating to FBM could be a way: http://www.freeburmarangers.org/

Well this post certainly went to hell.

Re: Redis 4.0

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I really wish Redis wouldn't use the "master/slave" terminology. Primary/replica or even Master/replica are better terms. I know I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but it's a pox on a project that I otherwise very much love.

The words only have meaning if you give them meaning, and while a smaller progressive org might care, it doesn't seem to be a fight worth having. No one thinks your technical terminology supports the historical subjucation of a race, and I wish we could be adults and get on to real work. Outrage fatigue is a thing. I just want to build, and save the politics for my off hours. Edit: mods, feel free to detach as off to…

I grew up in a small city in south central US. Although in the south, this city only had 1% black population, which is unusually low. In the 1920 a black man was pulled out of jail by a mob and lynched (hung from a rope, killed). He was later determined to be innocent. The black population left not longer after this incident.

I currently live in a city where children regularly die from drive by shooting. These children are always black, in poor or lower middle class neighborhoods.

Although you say they don't, words DO have power. Maybe they don't for you personally, but the fact everyone isn't like yourself (shocking isn't it?) indicates to many, myself included, that we should conduct ourselves in a way that's inclusive of those not like us. It's easy really. Just don't be a jerk. Edit not saying you are, but if someones ancestors were slaves, and the IT dept sits around talking about masters and slaves, how would that make you feel?

Re: Redis 4.0

#23
post #16

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Happy to provide the flame you're expecting. Master/slave describes the relationship between the services and has been standard terminology for decades. I have yet to hear of any IRL victims of slavery that are miffed by the use of this terminology. Do not be offended on someone else's behalf.

But it's ok to assume a lack of offense on the part of every other person? I think we all get what the terms mean In This Context but there are other options available that don't require that kind of boxing and unboxing. Other projects have done this successfully[0] and the Redis maintainer is right here in the thread saying he understands the concern. The thing I never get with these objections is, what is the harm…

It's pretty "lame" to push established projects to make confusing terminology changes to address whatever words the "peanut gallery" is upset about this week. Try not to be so "uppity", "guy".

Re: Redis 4.0

#24
post #9

I really wish Redis wouldn't use the "master/slave" terminology. Primary/replica or even Master/replica are better terms. I know I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but it's a pox on a project that I otherwise very much love.

I'm not for the change in terminology at this step, because it is very unfortunate to change the terminology of a project that is here for years, however I tried to use the fact we have this terminology to remind people of what slavery looked (and still looks in certain parts of the world) like, so: 1) We have a SLAVEOF NO ONE command which is very popular. 2) We have a note about slavery here: https://redis.io/comma…

It's excellent to see you're taking the issue seriously.

Comparing this carefully considered reply to all the others also gives me some more evidence that those that excel at technology are often remarkable people in many other aspects as well.

Re: Redis 4.0

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post #18

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You certainly have every right to not personally be offended by something, but it's a valuable thing to have empathy toward those who are. You seem to lack the latter, and that may hold you back, and have the potential to hurt others as well. Something to think about, anyway. (In this case I both have that empathy and also think it's a deeply unfortunate phrase that I wish we could leave behind, though I recognize th…

Arguing for not offending others by saying to someone that they seem to lack empathy is gutsy.

I'm not opposed to offending others. : ) Just be aware when you do, and why you're doing it. The parent post simply seemed blithely unaware of how deeply hurtful the phrase can be to people. (Imagine typing that phrase out every day when literally your own great great great grandparents were dragged here in chains and were considered the personal property of someone. That's simply f'ed up and would suck beyond belief, and not even being willing to acknowledge that harm is crazy to me.)

Re: Redis 4.0

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post #3
post #2

LFU policy sounds really interesting!

Thank you, there is more info in this blog post: http://antirez.com/news/109

Awesome write up. I can't wait to try out LFU with our usage. I have a suspicion that our cache hit ratio will see a nice bump.

I've said this before and I'll say it again...thank you for all you do!

Re: Redis 4.0

#27
post #18

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You certainly have every right to not personally be offended by something, but it's a valuable thing to have empathy toward those who are. You seem to lack the latter, and that may hold you back, and have the potential to hurt others as well. Something to think about, anyway. (In this case I both have that empathy and also think it's a deeply unfortunate phrase that I wish we could leave behind, though I recognize th…

Sir or Madam, I am one of the most emphatic humans I know (on my scale as a pleb). I care for the suffering of all people, and am willing to give up large chunks of my life remaining for social causes. I live below my means so people I've never met can live a better life. But arguing over terminology used by a data store? Let's not discuss window dressing patterns while the neighborhood is burning to the ground. Pick…

I'd say this is as good as any other hill from a empathy perspective. That's the thing about empathy; it's the ability to participate in the feelings of others, not yourself.

Re: Redis 4.0

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post #27

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Sir or Madam, I am one of the most emphatic humans I know (on my scale as a pleb). I care for the suffering of all people, and am willing to give up large chunks of my life remaining for social causes. I live below my means so people I've never met can live a better life. But arguing over terminology used by a data store? Let's not discuss window dressing patterns while the neighborhood is burning to the ground. Pick…

I'd say this is as good as any other hill from a empathy perspective. That's the thing about empathy; it's the ability to participate in the feelings of others , not yourself.

To each their own. Appreciate the discussion.

Re: Redis 4.0

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arguing for not offending others by saying to someone that they seem to lack empathy is gutsy.

I'm not opposed to offending others. : ) Just be aware when you do, and why you're doing it. The parent post simply seemed blithely unaware of how deeply hurtful the phrase can be to people. (Imagine typing that phrase out every day when literally your own great great great grandparents were dragged here in chains and were considered the personal property of someone. That's simply f'ed up and would suck beyond belief…

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