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The Decline of Marriage

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Re: The Decline of Marriage

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Natural selection will take care of this eventually, either genetically or memeticly. I suspect the outcome will not be as happy as what the traditions we flouted provided. The birth rate is likely the most telling critique of western society.

Our revealed preference is our civilization is not worth perpetuating.

As of now only those who deliberately desire children and those unable to follow the instructions on the back of contraception packaging reproduce. It will be interesting to see how this works out long term.

Re: The Decline of Marriage

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While I agree that we have a problem with population growth, the author has very traditional views on marriage and its requirements for a society/population to function - there's much more to it than that.

Also thanks for calling my existence "illegitimate" in 2017.

Re: The Decline of Marriage

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post #3

While I agree that we have a problem with population growth, the author has very traditional views on marriage and its requirements for a society/population to function - there's much more to it than that. Also thanks for calling my existence "illegitimate" in 2017.

Based on the perceptual bias the author let slip, I'm surprised that graph wasn't labeled "Bastardy".

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Wow, this article isn't scientific at all, in the least.

>As mentioned in the previous essay, single parenthood correlates with a number of social maladies.

>The best environment for these children is a home with their biological mother and father. Marriage is statistically the best way to ensure these environments for children. Healthy marriages create stable families. Stable families create strong and safe communities. Strong communities create prosperous cities. Prosperous cities create successful nations. Successful nations advance humanity.

Citations needed. There's no proof of any of this, it's just the social norm we've had for centuries. "We've always done it this way" isn't proof, and the way our society was before ~50 years ago was actively bad and oppressive for many members of society, particularly women who really were second-class citizens, unable to vote or hold most jobs.

Personally, I think it'd be better if people joined into polyamorous groupings; it's better for kids, and provides a more stable home life than only having 2 parents. Don't ask me for citations; you'll just have to take my word for it, just as the author of this article did.

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The article is a PR piece for "Keiyaku Kekkon", a japanese marriage partner startup.

I quickly read through the text - and wondered what I had learned. It does not present any interesting conclusions, or back its statements with data.

Here is the exec summary of the startup's business model:

"Keiyaku Kekkon is a marriage-focused dating website with a twist. The name is Japanese and literally means "Contract Marriage." Users create their ideal marriage agreement and match up with a suitable partner.

Unlike typical dating sites that match people based on personality, Keiyaku Kekkon matches people based on their marriage contracts. Users can spell out exactly what they want out of marriage and exactly what they have to offer."

[1] http://keiyakukekkon.com

Re: The Decline of Marriage

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Wow, this article isn't scientific at all, in the least. >As mentioned in the previous essay, single parenthood correlates with a number of social maladies. >The best environment for these children is a home with their biological mother and father. Marriage is statistically the best way to ensure these environments for children. Healthy marriages create stable families. Stable families create strong and safe communit…

> Citations needed

There are studies that show that single parent homes correlate with certain social outcomes. The next dozen leaps, however, are way out there or patently false.

Re: The Decline of Marriage

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> If people are voluntarily opting out of marriage and family

I'm not married, I'm in a long term committed relationship, I have kids. The article seems to think that being married and having kids is somehow the same. It's not.

Re: The Decline of Marriage

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Wow, this article isn't scientific at all, in the least. >As mentioned in the previous essay, single parenthood correlates with a number of social maladies. >The best environment for these children is a home with their biological mother and father. Marriage is statistically the best way to ensure these environments for children. Healthy marriages create stable families. Stable families create strong and safe communit…

I’m with you on almost everything, I happen to agree communal and/or polyamorous parenting is great (no sarcasm, kids raised this way are great); but when do you think universal female suffrage happened in the U.S.? The 19th amendment was ratified in 1920.

Are you implying there was some kind of poll tax or equivalent suppression of the female vote until the 60s?

Re: The Decline of Marriage

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Wow, this article isn't scientific at all, in the least. >As mentioned in the previous essay, single parenthood correlates with a number of social maladies. >The best environment for these children is a home with their biological mother and father. Marriage is statistically the best way to ensure these environments for children. Healthy marriages create stable families. Stable families create strong and safe communit…

I'm almost certain widespread polyamory will degenerate into polygamy approximately instantaneously.
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