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Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

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Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...except threatening Taiwan with war? And ask the people in Tibet and (some) in Hongkong.

As far as I know, all the places you mentioned are either Chinese territory or disputed Chinese territory. All of them are recognized by most countries (most likely including yours) as part of China. Can you name a sovereign state recognized globally that is being threatened by China militarily?

Taiwan is de-facto sovereign and you know it.

Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

#32
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...except threatening Taiwan with war? And ask the people in Tibet and (some) in Hongkong.

As far as I know, all the places you mentioned are either Chinese territory or disputed Chinese territory. All of them are recognized by most countries (most likely including yours) as part of China. Can you name a sovereign state recognized globally that is being threatened by China militarily?

Taiwan is de-facto sovereign and you know it.

Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

#33
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...except threatening Taiwan with war? And ask the people in Tibet and (some) in Hongkong.

As far as I know, all the places you mentioned are either Chinese territory or disputed Chinese territory. All of them are recognized by most countries (most likely including yours) as part of China. Can you name a sovereign state recognized globally that is being threatened by China militarily?

Taiwan is de-facto sovereign and you know it.

Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

#34
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, all the places you mentioned are either Chinese territory or disputed Chinese territory. All of them are recognized by most countries (most likely including yours) as part of China. Can you name a sovereign state recognized globally that is being threatened by China militarily?

"Disputed Chinese territory" - by that definition it is easy to invade whoever you want. Just say it's your territory and you are good to go.

It is fascinating that when trying to cover different perspectives in one sentence, I have unknowingly made a problematic definition.

Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

#35
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, all the places you mentioned are either Chinese territory or disputed Chinese territory. All of them are recognized by most countries (most likely including yours) as part of China. Can you name a sovereign state recognized globally that is being threatened by China militarily?

Taiwan is de-facto sovereign and you know it.

Yes, I know it. So let's just say that China being influential is bad for China and Taiwan.

Case closed?

Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

#36
post #13

For all the criticism that the USA is receiving recently, I am sure the world would be a worse place if China was the most influential country in the world (which they are trying become) instead of the USA.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

"WITTES: It is a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security. It means, in context, not quite the opposite of what it's almost always quoted as saying but much closer to the opposite than to the thing that people think it means."

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous...

Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

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post #8

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It's true, hardly anyone inside China is even aware of his existence. That said, I've seen direct references to him (and even photos of him) from activist friends in my WeChat feed, which surprises me a bit. I would have thought the WeChat censors would have been working overtime this week...

I hope by now you have discovered the contradiction between your two paragraphs. People know, they just don't discuss it publicly.

A minuscule proportion of the population knows about him. My WeChat feed is utterly unrepresentative of Chinese society at large.

Re: Liu Xiaobo, Nobel laureate and political prisoner, dies at 61 in Chinese custody

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope by now you have discovered the contradiction between your two paragraphs. People know, they just don't discuss it publicly.

A minuscule proportion of the population knows about him. My WeChat feed is utterly unrepresentative of Chinese society at large.

I really want to agree with your projection. However, your only data is contradicting it. Until you have more data, it would remain an assertion.
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