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Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet
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#32"Net Neutrality" in its final form did not solve or fix any problems with the Internet. The definition of "Net Neutrality" is poorly defined, too vague and does not have any proposed legislation attached to "fix" things. Even when new rules were implemented, ISPs still throttled torrents and manipulated traffic. The only way to fix the Internet is to do so from a technical perspective, not by adding more regulations that ISPs won't obey (they work that into their business model). The "Internet" has never been free and has always been controlled by a handful of entities. The only fix for the Internet is if everyone actively participates in the Internet's infrastructure and we work to create technologies that thwart active threats from ISPs or that gives ISPs competition.
;TLDR I don't support Net Neutrality.
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#33Serious question, could someone please educate me. 1) How is Net Neutrality different from a slippery slope to communism? 2) During the President Obama years, my ISP in the U.S. offered 3 different tiers of service at 3 different prices. How is that pure "net neutrality"? (this was similar to the situation where in the U.S., rich lefty-liberals don't send their kids to public schools... but want poor conservatives to…
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#34Thanks in part to net neutrality, the open internet has grown to become an unrivaled source of choice, competition, innovation, free expression, and opportunity. Unless my history is wrong, and please correct me if that is the case, until the Title II decision in 2015, there were no regulations preventing an ISP from discriminating network traffic. So to say that Net Neutrality has been key to an open internet from 1…
Even though there were no explicit rules requiring something, there were nevertheless unofficial norms that were followed. If (almost) everyone does something without a rule, then making a rule is pointless. But when you get enough people skirting those norms, it then becomes necessary to codify them. For instance, the Special Prosecutor law that Ken Starr operated under was put in place in the wake of Watergate and the Saturday Night Massacre, when it became clear that the understanding that a special prosecutor should be protected from firing upon executive whim.
Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet
#35Serious question, could someone please educate me. 1) How is Net Neutrality different from a slippery slope to communism? 2) During the President Obama years, my ISP in the U.S. offered 3 different tiers of service at 3 different prices. How is that pure "net neutrality"? (this was similar to the situation where in the U.S., rich lefty-liberals don't send their kids to public schools... but want poor conservatives to…
1. At present ISPs have monopoly or near monopoly status over the vast majority of the US and are destroying competition in the marketplace through anti-competitive means. To protect the free market they must either be broken up or strongly regulated.
I'd like to point out that "strongly regulated" in this case is still far less regulation than current water or power utilities enjoy. Do you consider those regulations, that have been around for decades, a "slippery slope into communism?" Is the government telling your electric utility that they can't charge you differently for using your refrigerator vs using your lights "communist"?
2. It isn't net neutrality at all, or even related. Net neutrality is the principle that packets are not prioritized. If I want to watch Netflix instead of Comcast's video service, I should be able to utilize my full bandwidth to do so.
Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet
#36Serious question, could someone please educate me. 1) How is Net Neutrality different from a slippery slope to communism? 2) During the President Obama years, my ISP in the U.S. offered 3 different tiers of service at 3 different prices. How is that pure "net neutrality"? (this was similar to the situation where in the U.S., rich lefty-liberals don't send their kids to public schools... but want poor conservatives to…
1) what?
2) >During the President Obama years, my ISP in the U.S. offered 3 different tiers of service at 3 different prices. How is that pure "net neutrality"?
Well, for one, Title II wasn't enforced during the "President Obama years" that I know of, so there is no difference in what you could have experienced than as what you could experience now. And second, offering different speed tiers has nothing to do with net neutrality, as long as that speed applied neutrally to all content you can access over the internet.
Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet
#37Serious question, could someone please educate me. 1) How is Net Neutrality different from a slippery slope to communism? 2) During the President Obama years, my ISP in the U.S. offered 3 different tiers of service at 3 different prices. How is that pure "net neutrality"? (this was similar to the situation where in the U.S., rich lefty-liberals don't send their kids to public schools... but want poor conservatives to…
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Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet
#38This day is a joke.
I know that HN hates "unproductive comments", but I feel my comment is as likely as effective of "raising net neutrality awareness" as the silly grey logo bar topping this website right now.
Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet
#39"Net Neutrality" in its final form did not solve or fix any problems with the Internet. The definition of "Net Neutrality" is poorly defined, too vague and does not have any proposed legislation attached to "fix" things. Even when new rules were implemented, ISPs still throttled torrents and manipulated traffic. The only way to fix the Internet is to do so from a technical perspective, not by adding more regulations…
OK. Does the current situation cause harm? Is there a good reason why it needs to change?
Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet
#40Thanks in part to net neutrality, the open internet has grown to become an unrivaled source of choice, competition, innovation, free expression, and opportunity. Unless my history is wrong, and please correct me if that is the case, until the Title II decision in 2015, there were no regulations preventing an ISP from discriminating network traffic. So to say that Net Neutrality has been key to an open internet from 1…
Hasn't the spirit of the Internet always been about a neutral Internet? That spirit was being threatened and so regulations were put in place to keep it neutral.
We have retroactively latched on to this RMS style idea of a digital library of alexandria that has somehow been abandoned.
It's like nobody remembers the internet of the 90s and how blatantly over the top siloed it was for the average AOL style user. I mean I remember my paid dial up internet service came on a floppy and had it's own browser and pop-up ads.
The "free" services required that you click on header links every few minutes.