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Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by gcp »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #6
gcp wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK almost no US based website does this, even if they are using GA. As a European this is annoying, but one has to ask itself the question if Mozilla should willfully disadvantage itself here.

Does Mozilla not have a presence in the EU?

It has some subsidiaries, AFAIK. I don't know how the legals work there.

I was going to say Google does the same, but an actual clean profile shows that Google.com shows a banner "A privacy reminder from Google" on first use.

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by coldpie »

davb wrote: post #10

What browser should users opt for if they want performance, broad compatibility with websites and absolutely no tracking/analytics? Preferably open source and cross platform.

Firefox is a good one. They're clearly implementing a fix for this bug.

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by gcp »

coldpie wrote: post #12
davb wrote: post #10

What browser should users opt for if they want performance, broad compatibility with websites and absolutely no tracking/analytics? Preferably open source and cross platform.

Firefox is a good one. They're clearly implementing a fix for this bug.

IMHO this should be blocked by Tracking Protection.

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by nerdponx »

EwanToo wrote: post #2

It's worth knowing that Mozilla negotiated an opt-out with Google around the re-use of this (and other) Google Analytics data https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14

I'm not sure I understand the "opt-out" they negotiated with Google. Is this a user-level opt-out? Or did Mozilla convince Google to silo the Mozilla data?

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by kuschku »

Notice: The mods just changed the title from "Firefox secretly tracks users with Google Analytics in the addon settings" to "Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings"

@mods: The "secretly" was used to signify the fact that Mozilla does not inform users about this fact, their Privacy Policy does not cover it, and at no point does any page, modal, or disclaimer tell this.

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by gcp »

nerdponx wrote: post #15
EwanToo wrote: post #2

It's worth knowing that Mozilla negotiated an opt-out with Google around the re-use of this (and other) Google Analytics data https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14

I'm not sure I understand the "opt-out" they negotiated with Google. Is this a user-level opt-out? Or did Mozilla convince Google to silo the Mozilla data?

From the linked bug, it sounds like the data is silo-ed and no user opt-out is needed.

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by fredmorcos »

joenathanone wrote: post #9
coldpie wrote: post #8

I hate these public bugs that blow up. They always turn into these dumb dogpile rants from uninformed users. Tofumatt's doing a good job, but they should really lock this bug report from commenters before it gets out of hand.

>dumb dogpile rants... Pot meet kettle You're comment hasn't added any value to the conversation, it's just a rant.

> You're comment

Need to thank you though, for adding value.

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by davb »

coldpie wrote: post #12
davb wrote: post #10

What browser should users opt for if they want performance, broad compatibility with websites and absolutely no tracking/analytics? Preferably open source and cross platform.

Firefox is a good one. They're clearly implementing a fix for this bug.

I guess I'm interested in browsers who's developers wouldn't have done this in the first place - a browser which has privacy as a core principle and who's develop we wouldn't consider pushing any data, regardless of aggregation or commercial value, to a third party without explicit consent..

Re: Firefox tracks users with Google Analytics in the add-on settings

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Post by rexicus »

hartator wrote: post #4

I don't know how many incidents like this is needed before people realized Mozilla is not the angel it used to be.

Don't forget the "bug" where Google's supercookie was un-deletable https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1008706
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