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Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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Re: Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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> As for college kids, best to travel abroad. 15 of the top 20 universities in the world are in the US. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankin...

As claimed by US publication using their own US biases for ranking :)

It's a British publication.

Choose any other well-regarded ranking and you'll get similar results.

Re: Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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I've always wondered about this. What makes handwriting different from typing in terms of memory recall, other than the fact that most, if not everyone, have written with pen and paper for far longer than typing?

Greater number of variables employed in creation. Any one of which could be a hook to remember by (location on page, made a particularly nice letter, where my pencil broke, after the smudge, before/after my hand started to cramp). Typing vs handwriting is like finding the right door in an unnumbered hotel vs a picturesque medieval town

>Any one of which could be a hook to remember by (location on page, made a particularly nice letter, where my pencil broke, after the smudge, before/after my hand started to cramp).

I still don't get how that'd be any different. Location on a page corresponds with which notebook and section I may have taken notes down in OneNote, especially since you can also position notes all over the page.

All kinds of factors fit both of the media, IMO.

Re: Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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Or just log out of any social media. No need to turn off the internet.

Or simply exercise some self-control, and do not visit social media while you are working, studying, or otherwise occupied. If you hate what you're doing so much, that you have to do something so unhealthy as locking yourself in isolation to perform the task, you probably shouldn't do it. Listen to yourself, and go do what you want to do instead.

This is a naive and harmful view of self-control.

You can love something to pieces, yet still find yourself unable to do it, merely because the draw of the internet is too powerful. We are not optimized to deal with the stimulus of the internet. I have found that unfettered access to it is reducing life quality, and I'm not waiting for twenty double-blind peer-reviewed studies to show this obvious reality.

It is much healthier to admit that we have limits, that we are fallible in the face of such overwhelming pleasure, and accept the approach of physically distancing ourselves from the internet.

Re: Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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"Thus, there seems to be little upside to laptop use in class, while there is clearly a downside." Thanks to bs articles like this that try to over generalize their results, I was unsure if I "needed" a laptop when returning to school. Got a Surface Book and here's what I've experienced over the last 2 semesters. - Going paperless, I'm more organized than ever. I just need to make sure I bring my surface with me wher…

That's a sensible and practical use of laptop that I wish I had back when I was at Uni (nobody had a laptop in the 90s). I wonder how many students today make efficient use of their computers like this? I guess it's a mix of good and bad.

It occurs to me that educating younger students about "how to use a computer" for organising and the like, would be essential in early education before bad habits set in.

Re: Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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I think its a double edge sword; not just paper > laptop or laptop > paper. As many people have already stated, its about engagement. Since coming back for my PhD, I've subscribed to the pencil/paper approach as a simple show of respect to the instructor. Despite what we think, professors are human and flawed, and being in their shoes, it can be disheartening to not be able to feed off your audience. That being said,…

>That being said, you can't control them; however, I like to look at different performance styles. What makes someone binge watch Netflix episodes but want to nod off during a lecture. Sure, one has less cognitive load, but replace Netflix binge with anything. I personally find that if the air quality is not perfect for my needs, I tend to go drowsy really fast. Since I hate the artificially dry air, in any setting w…

Not to be a jerk, but that's a discipline matter - you need to do what you need to do to maintain attention. Too much heating in my car in the winter and I get drowsy as well; and that's a situation where I need to be VERY engaged! If I fall asleep at the wheel, I can't blame it on the car, that was my fault. I do try to practice mindfulness, so I never let myself fall into "auto-pilot".

Breaks help and are definitely needed, the classes I've taught have been anywhere from 1 to 2 hours. I'd typically do a 1 hour block, 10 minutes and finish (or 50 min then break depending on room vibe and natural progression of material).

However, I cannot control things like AC or number of people. AC in a large-scale building is an unsolved problem as-is, I have no control over every person's thermal comfort level (plus everyone's different). In that situation, I view it more internally as "What can I do to stay engaged?" rather than "What can they do to keep me engaged?"

With more students enrolling, all you can do is offer ways to let them receive the material outside the prescribed time. No one has a photographic memory and can remember literally everything - that's why I make Khan Academy-style videos of my lectures.

I'd love to mirror a martial art class, where I can rely on more experienced students to help others, as they may be able to offer another viewpoint I skipped over (since, I already understand the material, they just figured it out). However, in a college setting, it's a harder thing to do, given its hard to convince TAs attend the class again and act as an assistant.

Repetition is a very important tool for learning, but current Western education philosophy dislikes it. I could go on, but I'm starting to ramble on a tangent...

Re: Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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Or simply exercise some self-control, and do not visit social media while you are working, studying, or otherwise occupied. If you hate what you're doing so much, that you have to do something so unhealthy as locking yourself in isolation to perform the task, you probably shouldn't do it. Listen to yourself, and go do what you want to do instead.

This is a naive and harmful view of self-control. You can love something to pieces, yet still find yourself unable to do it, merely because the draw of the internet is too powerful. We are not optimized to deal with the stimulus of the internet. I have found that unfettered access to it is reducing life quality, and I'm not waiting for twenty double-blind peer-reviewed studies to show this obvious reality. It is much…

By this logic, all humans are incapable of performing any task due to the existence of the internet. Some yearn for a simpler time, when all humans were incapable of performing any task due to the existence of television, radio, books, friends, meteorology, the opposite sex, or beer.

But if you would rather be distracted by trees and bugs, remarkable vistas and epic adventures, feel free to continue using this narrative to get what you want.

Re: Students Are Better Off Without a Laptop in the Classroom

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post #151

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Why not take notes on paper instead?

I took a class that basically covered a lot of papers. The lecturer spoke at a mile a minute and it was nigh impossible to write all the important info by hand and the really important parts are not on the slides. Typing on a computer allowed me to write all the juicy bits that made studying a breeze.

I thought the main benefit of taking notes on paper was that it forced you to think and to summarize instead of transcribe.
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