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Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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Looks like it's Ethereum and Ripple which are falling, no? Bitcoin is pretty stable, Litecoin has been climbing, didn't check the others.

Bitcoin is down over 20% from its high a month ago. Not exactly steady, but weathering a bit better.

When ETH and XRP drop by 20% in 1 day, 1 month duration seems mild.

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

#82

Any speculations on why this is happening, and whether/how much they will grow in the near future ?

Funny people don't want to question the reason on a bull run but requires a reason on a bear run. $3000 was way off chart in the first place, a little correction is normal.

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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Gold, which is possibly the oldest store of value used by civilization, is just as volatile. The inflation-adjusted price per Troy ounce of gold went from a high of around $2400 in the the late 1400's, to a low of $200 in 1919; then, it rose in fits and starts until it peaked at nearly $1600 in 1980; it then declined, again in fits and starts, until it bottomed just below $400 in 2002; then it rose to nearly $2000 in…

Except that during crisis Gold is guarantee to fall back at worst to it's "practical" value as a metal being used for jewelry. Even tulips bulbs have a practical value as every gardener could tell you. However the practical value of a crypto currency is zero. And no technical small talk was able to contest this truth so far. EDIT: Downvote what you can't contest, how mature!

Gold has industrial usage as well - electronics, computers, even in space tech Gold it's used for it's unique properties.

I don't get why crypto keeps being compared to a metal.

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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Any speculations on why this is happening, and whether/how much they will grow in the near future ?

1st of aug there is a fork (maybe) which makes people very nervous. Most people I know sold off because of that (and not understanding what stuff means as in ; all crypto is the same and this sounds dangerous!). And correction which was needed anyway. I'll be buying.

Exactly. Most the crypto guys I know are now 50%+ in fiat due to the Aug 1st. Bitcoin fiasco. I basically won't refresh my portfolio until mid-August.

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that during crisis Gold is guarantee to fall back at worst to it's "practical" value as a metal being used for jewelry. Even tulips bulbs have a practical value as every gardener could tell you. However the practical value of a crypto currency is zero. And no technical small talk was able to contest this truth so far. EDIT: Downvote what you can't contest, how mature!

Gold has industrial usage as well - electronics, computers, even in space tech Gold it's used for it's unique properties. I don't get why crypto keeps being compared to a metal.

Even fiat currency has intrinsic value. The Zimbabwe bills that were inflated to hell and beyond, then replaced, which aren't even legal tender any more, still have value as collectible notes. You see them on eBay all the time for a buck or two.

Nobody will pay anything for your Bitcoin wallet if Bitcoin fundamentally fails, just as nobody will pay for your World of Warcraft gold when the pull the plug on the last WoW server a decade or two from now. It's just a bunch of useless numbers.

If you're "investing" in crypto, that is speculating, then fine. If you're thinking it's a safe and secure way to store money you're mistaken.

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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Gold, which is possibly the oldest store of value used by civilization, is just as volatile. The inflation-adjusted price per Troy ounce of gold went from a high of around $2400 in the the late 1400's, to a low of $200 in 1919; then, it rose in fits and starts until it peaked at nearly $1600 in 1980; it then declined, again in fits and starts, until it bottomed just below $400 in 2002; then it rose to nearly $2000 in…

Except that during crisis Gold is guarantee to fall back at worst to it's "practical" value as a metal being used for jewelry. Even tulips bulbs have a practical value as every gardener could tell you. However the practical value of a crypto currency is zero. And no technical small talk was able to contest this truth so far. EDIT: Downvote what you can't contest, how mature!

Dinosaur, meet meteor.

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

#87

Interesting to see the paradigm of "bitcoin is doing well, everything else must be less useful" is making a comeback? I the reason progressively larger corrections have been happening is due to more people who know nothing about crypto entering the space, therefore introducing more volatility and reflexive baseless reasoning. If you question this, join one of the "crpyto currency" groups on FaceBook and read through…

The fear emotion is really something else.

People fear they are missing out on something - a quick scheme to make money...

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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I can see that almost 50% of blocks are generated with SegWit support. In a few weeks it'll be more than 50%, unless trend drastically changes. Does it mean, that SegWit won and Bitcoin is safe?

SegWit needs 95% to be activated, it's not even close.

uasf.co will try to force SegWit activation. And we'll see what'll happen, and will there be economic majority or not to force SegWit activation, and how many blocks [and transactions] will end up orphaned.

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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post #39

Gold, which is possibly the oldest store of value used by civilization, is just as volatile. The inflation-adjusted price per Troy ounce of gold went from a high of around $2400 in the the late 1400's, to a low of $200 in 1919; then, it rose in fits and starts until it peaked at nearly $1600 in 1980; it then declined, again in fits and starts, until it bottomed just below $400 in 2002; then it rose to nearly $2000 in…

Wait, what? BTC's dollar volatility is a lot higher than gold's, though there have been short intervals where it's slightly lower.

There's even a site for tracking it; can't link the specific graph, but you can go here and just turn on 30-day BTC/USD and 30-day gold/USD for the past year.

https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/volatility-index/

Re: Crypto-currencies have lost 30% of their value in the last 3 weeks

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Exactly. People pay real money and get nothing in exchange. Plus, its amazing how people don't get how the system works.

I'd be genuinely interested to find out what you feel is real about the money compared to the nothing you got in exchange? Also how does the system work from your point of view?

The thing that's real about real money is that you can use it to pay your taxes. You may talk about how you could, in principle, barter goods and services and account for everything in terms of chickens, but the IRS doesn't accept chickens.
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