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Re: IPhone 4

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Is it only me who finds the flat sides and glass back "aesthetically" unpleasing... The 3GS looks a tad better to me than the 4 (ofcourse they aren't deal breakers, but wanted to know since Gruber seem to like them)

I agree, the 4 looks like a step back. Maybe to a 70s type of design. Looks cludgy to me.

It's taken me a few days to 'get used' to the 4.

I love the thing, it has a Bang and Olufsen vibe to it.

Re: IPhone 4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's definitely a subjective thing, but I think it just sucks. I set my machine to "tap-to-click" within a few minutes.

You and your cohorts will be among the first put up against the wall when the HCI revolution comes, especially the assholes that baked that behavior into the device firmware of some trackpads, forcing you to twiddle bits in the driver to ignore the taps (like on the OLPC XO-1). "tap-to-click" is an abomination I wish to abolish from the face of the earth. I find it incredibly frustrating myself, but the older folks I…

How can you mean that? Tapping is a much more lighter way of interacting with the touch pad. Way more elegant than a click with force.

Re: IPhone 4

#144
post #136

> No other company gives a shit about things like this. There was a time where I really liked John's articles. Now he's sounding like just another fanboy...

But he's right, can you name another tech firm that cares as much about these things? I remember reading something a while back about how much time Apple spent on getting the angle (directon) of the mouse pointer right on the original Mac.

It's not about _what_ he says but more about _how_ he says it. I'd rather read something like "Other companies don't take these things seriously" than "No other company gives a shit about things like this.".

Re: IPhone 4

#146
post #43

"This is the result of a new manufacturing process Apple has pioneered. No other company gives a shit about things like this." Samsung is doing this for their new displays. And they were out before the iPhone 4 was even announced. But, to Gruber, if it's not Apple, it's automatically crap. No sense acknowledging its existence.

The OpenMoko phone also had a higher number of pixels-per-inch than the iPhone 4. And this was years ago, by a no-name hardware company. The reason other phones don't have a "retina display" is because it's expensive, and the other phones are trying to win market share by being cheap. Sadly, this works better than making a quality product.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_densi...

Openmoko: 282ppi

iPhone 4: 326ppi

Re: IPhone 4

#147

One has to read Gruber's review and Ars Technica's review of the iPhone 4 to see the difference between a fan boy and a level-headed writer. Before I clicked the link I bet myself I would not see a single criticism and Gruber was predictable in his praise. The iPhone 4 is perfect, like every other piece of anything Apple puts out. yawn

Before I clicked the link I bet myself I would not see a single criticism and Gruber was predictable in his praise.

So you just skipped the parts where he brought up criticisms and pointed out things he thinks are missing and speculated on ways Apple could resolve them?

Re: IPhone 4

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Even though this is the Haus of Gruber (why, exactly, does everything he post get FPd here? Confirmation bias, perhaps?), I'll take my downvote suffering- >In fact, Apple seems very confident regarding everything it decided for the original 2007 iPhone Except multitasking in apps. Actually, scratch that, except apps altogether. Two major shifts in direction. Of course Gruber led into that talking about hardware. Ther…

His quote makes a lot more sense in context: * In fact, Apple seems very confident regarding everything it decided for the original 2007 iPhone. There are no new buttons, or even moved buttons. The Retina Display is emblematic of the iPhone 4 as a whole, both hardware and software: the same fundamental idea as the original iPhone, but clarified. It hasn’t really changed so much as improved — like the same picture in…

He does this a lot. I've called him out on before but he seems to have such an irrational hate (hinted at in his post with the "moral objection" bit) that he doesn't even realize it.

Re: IPhone 4

#149
post #59

The new volume buttons, silence toggle, and power button all have a better feel than ever before. No way. The buttons feel cheap compared to the 3GS. The silence toggle is a piece of shit. And I preferred the volume up/down as one button.

Say what you will about the volume and lock buttons, but the new silence toggle is great. About once a day I would accidentally switch my phone from ring to silent (or vice versa) with my 3GS.

Does anyone else notice this pattern and find it strange:

Feature X on my new Apple product is great. It's much better than the flawed version on my earlier Apple device.

The retina screen and camera are two big areas where Apple might have previously been considered behind the curve, yet they get strongly praised for being better than their earlier efforts rather than benchmarked against current rivals.

Compare the gasps of delight of someone comparing a Retina display against years old iPhones, compared with the "meh, looks about the same" response when compared with a Super-AMOLED screen from Samsung.

Re: IPhone 4

#150
post #12

>The overall build quality seems impossibly good. The iPhone 4 is beautiful to behold and feels like a valuable artifact. It’s like a love letter to Dieter Rams. Do other people actually like reading stuff like this? I mean, regardless of what you think of the iphone 4, that level of praise almost makes me feel bad for him. It's like romantic love for an object.

The more money you spend on something, the more you need to hear that you did the right thing. At school in a psychology course I learned that there is advertising created for people who already bought the stuff (like an expensive car), to prevent them from worrying.

Still, the level of reassurance Apple fans need is a bit disturbing. If it is so great, why not just shut up about it and enjoy it?

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