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Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#2I am a believer in "Serverless" and that it will play a primary role in a large portion of developers' lives... in the future
My experience with servless is that while this may be true at a certain level:
> No server management
I feel like in Amazon's current toolset, you are MORE aware of "servers" than you ever have been before. It's just abstracted into a different layer (cloudformations, etc). The boilerplate for severless projects it's a complete mess, imo.
Besides that, the Develop/Test/Deploy/Manage lifecycle is really difficult to reason about. I would hate to be the one on call when a serverless service goes down and I have to figure out what's going on!
I look forward to Amazon releasing more tools (or cleaning up the ones they have) to make Serverless a breeze to work in.
[EDIT] clarification of a couple minor things
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#3I am a believer in "Serverless" and that it will play a primary role in a large portion of developers' lives... in the future My experience with servless is that while this may be true at a certain level: > No server management I feel like in Amazon's current toolset, you are MORE aware of "servers" than you ever have been before. It's just abstracted into a different layer (cloudformations, etc). The boilerplate for…
That future is being created, you're probably just less aware of it than you think.
Serverlessconf just announced their NYC conference, expected to be the largest yet. If Austin is any indicator, it will be huge. [1] Tim Wagner at AWS likes to spout the stat that billions of financial trades are already being processed per day on AWS Lambda. The "serverless" market is gigantic and growing rapidly.
And then there's companies like StdLib [2], where we've built an abstraction layer on top of serverless architecture that turns remote procedure calls (and APIs) into first-class citizens of your development environment with a single package and allows you to ship applications without ever worrying about infrastructure. We just closed a $2M seed [3] and are announcing some transformative partnerships shortly. We're tackling some of the exact issues you have problems with, and we're not the only ones.
The future is already here. It's just not evenly distributed. ;)
Disclaimer: I am the founder of StdLib. :)
[1] https://nyc.serverlessconf.io/
[2] https://github.com/stdlib/lib/
[3] https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/27/stdlib-just-raised-2-milli...
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#4Sorry what's new about this? Aren't all the pieces existing AWS services? They've just put it in a nice graphic with the architecture drawn out.
Not saying I don't like the architecture (actually think it's quite useful for many scenarios). Not sold on using DynamoDB (I'd rather use a traditional SQL store).
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#5Amazon wants to control markets by leading in with "convenience" factor but they will sheist you.
Buy stuff from Amazon... but for Pete's sake don't make them a core project dependency for your software projects. You only have yourself to blame when they start ratcheting up their prices.
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#6Amazon wants to control markets by leading in with "convenience" factor but they will sheist you. Buy stuff from Amazon... but for Pete's sake don't make them a core project dependency for your software projects. You only have yourself to blame when they start ratcheting up their prices.
AWS is the system architecture of the web, full-stop. Well, a system architecture, alongside Microsoft Azure and Google Cloud.
Avoid them at your own peril and detriment to your ability to execute as a business.
With the exception of a few masochists, we don't write software in machine code anymore. Same will be said for cloud infrastructure (actually, it's already there). Breathe and accept the future, focus on building what's next and / or adding value to your business.
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#7I am a believer in "Serverless" and that it will play a primary role in a large portion of developers' lives... in the future My experience with servless is that while this may be true at a certain level: > No server management I feel like in Amazon's current toolset, you are MORE aware of "servers" than you ever have been before. It's just abstracted into a different layer (cloudformations, etc). The boilerplate for…
That future is being created, you're probably just less aware of it than you think. Serverlessconf just announced their NYC conference, expected to be the largest yet. If Austin is any indicator, it will be huge. [1] Tim Wagner at AWS likes to spout the stat that billions of financial trades are already being processed per day on AWS Lambda. The "serverless" market is gigantic and growing rapidly. And then there's co…
Why are posts like this being downvoted? Is t because it contains self promotional links? I think the post is informative and adds value.
dang, I think there should be a feature to add an optional anonymous and private comment to the person when you downvote something, to let them know why (but with no arguments).
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#8Has anyone used RDS from lambda? Don't want to use Dynamo but perhaps for some key Val store.
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#9Amazon wants to control markets by leading in with "convenience" factor but they will sheist you. Buy stuff from Amazon... but for Pete's sake don't make them a core project dependency for your software projects. You only have yourself to blame when they start ratcheting up their prices.
AWS is the system architecture of the web, full-stop. Well, a system architecture, alongside Microsoft Azure and Google Cloud. Avoid them at your own peril and detriment to your ability to execute as a business. With the exception of a few masochists, we don't write software in machine code anymore. Same will be said for cloud infrastructure (actually, it's already there). Breathe and accept the future, focus on buil…
That's just silly. The internet was supposed to have no single point of failure. Now the Big Five have centralized everything. Why do you need to build centralized services on giant AWS server farms?
Re: Build a Serverless Web Applicaion
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
That future is being created, you're probably just less aware of it than you think. Serverlessconf just announced their NYC conference, expected to be the largest yet. If Austin is any indicator, it will be huge. [1] Tim Wagner at AWS likes to spout the stat that billions of financial trades are already being processed per day on AWS Lambda. The "serverless" market is gigantic and growing rapidly. And then there's co…
Why are posts like this being downvoted? Is t because it contains self promotional links? I think the post is informative and adds value. dang, I think there should be a feature to add an optional anonymous and private comment to the person when you downvote something, to let them know why (but with no arguments).
As developers we're allergic to marketing. Well, most of it. So when I make comments like this every once in a while I anticipate a bit of blowback. This is also a really competitive space with a lot of new players that check HN frequently - so keep that in mind.
I can tell you it's pretty difficult as a founder to draw the line around self-promotion; on one hand, you don't want to be an ass, and on the other, you're genuinely excited and passionate about the future you're helping to create and have personally poured your blood and sweat into for thousands of hours.
I hope that "real recognizes real" at some point in the communication chain and we're able to maintain that with our developers. I appreciate your post here, definitely.