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Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

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Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

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If you were offered the chance to become as intelligent as Feynman but only if you turn over a copy of all your future thoughts to the private business that made this possible, would you take it? Something non-invasive, like a computer that images your brain while you sleep. If we are machines, then it seems reasonable that within a few millennia we might have this capability. I'm trying to think up some scenarios wh…

I think we should really fix society before we develop that kind of technology. We need a socio-cultural breaktrough of the same magnitude as the technological breakthrough. Something on par with the development of monotheism, enlightenment, capitalism, or democracy. A "communistic" utopia (for lack of a better word) without the flaws of its historical implementations. Then the question is moot. There is no private b…

The other, and much more likely in my opinion, future is that developing this kind of technology will cause us to "fix" our society, or rather society will grow to support the new technology. It is unlikely that private business will relinquish it's control willingly, we must aim for a future that makes private business irrelevant (massive automation removing the need for humans to "pay" for anything)

Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

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More than anything, I am excited about the possibilities this opens up. A lot of fields that DARPA touches with its funding-filled hands turn into a technology that defines the future, from the internet to self-driving cars to GPS. Exciting times we live in indeed!

Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many will resist, so we have to keep our goal a secret. This is not democracy. Every dictatorship begins with "I know better what is good for you than you do". You should watch movie "Equilibrium" with Christian Bale. I don't think you really want that, it only sounds good in theory.

Well, it was firmly tongue in cheek. :) I've been thinking of trying to write some short stories pulling from various themes in technology. Most ideas have been done to death, but with a bit of skill it might be possible to write something worth reading. A tangent, but: I've been wondering how a novelist builds their skill. They're not born with it. One idea would be to watch a movie and write it like a book, transcr…

No ideas about the second, but an aside on the first.

'Most ideas have been done to death' is a central reason I have stopped reading novels that much. Ah its one of those, he will do this. Ah yes, I see the twist. its one of those.

Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we should really fix society before we develop that kind of technology. We need a socio-cultural breaktrough of the same magnitude as the technological breakthrough. Something on par with the development of monotheism, enlightenment, capitalism, or democracy. A "communistic" utopia (for lack of a better word) without the flaws of its historical implementations. Then the question is moot. There is no private b…

I agree. Once we develop the ability to upload and modify brains, it will be easy to morph them. We can extract the primal desire to defend yourself, to become angry, to want to own property. These emotions will be reserved for the founders. It will take time to get there. Many will resist, so we have to keep our goal a secret. But people are gullible. With our morphogenic brain technology, we can give people experie…

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Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we should really fix society before we develop that kind of technology. We need a socio-cultural breaktrough of the same magnitude as the technological breakthrough. Something on par with the development of monotheism, enlightenment, capitalism, or democracy. A "communistic" utopia (for lack of a better word) without the flaws of its historical implementations. Then the question is moot. There is no private b…

I agree. Once we develop the ability to upload and modify brains, it will be easy to morph them. We can extract the primal desire to defend yourself, to become angry, to want to own property. These emotions will be reserved for the founders. It will take time to get there. Many will resist, so we have to keep our goal a secret. But people are gullible. With our morphogenic brain technology, we can give people experie…

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Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

#57

> when people read aloud or read silently to themselves the neural signal in the superior temporal gyrus can be used to reconstruct the words How long until counter-interrogation techniques include not even thinking about what you want to conceal?

Probably more like thought-lie training: intentionally mis-remembering the details the interrogator is trying to extract.

or extreme meditative resistance; think nothing

Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

#58

If you were offered the chance to become as intelligent as Feynman but only if you turn over a copy of all your future thoughts to the private business that made this possible, would you take it? Something non-invasive, like a computer that images your brain while you sleep. If we are machines, then it seems reasonable that within a few millennia we might have this capability. I'm trying to think up some scenarios wh…

I think we should really fix society before we develop that kind of technology. We need a socio-cultural breaktrough of the same magnitude as the technological breakthrough. Something on par with the development of monotheism, enlightenment, capitalism, or democracy. A "communistic" utopia (for lack of a better word) without the flaws of its historical implementations. Then the question is moot. There is no private b…

"if we could read each others thoughts there would be no misunderstanding and conflict"

For that to be true you have to assume that everyone has enough empathy to come to agreement. It isn't really much different from the way things are now (without being able to read each other's thoughts).

Re: Darpa Wants Brain Implants That Record from 1M Neurons

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If you were offered the chance to become as intelligent as Feynman but only if you turn over a copy of all your future thoughts to the private business that made this possible, would you take it? Something non-invasive, like a computer that images your brain while you sleep. If we are machines, then it seems reasonable that within a few millennia we might have this capability. I'm trying to think up some scenarios wh…

What troubles me is not the permission to read, but to write. While potentially useful for a host of medical applications, this is a scientifically plausible proposal to create technology that will literally have the ability to control minds. While you might be comfortable with sharing intellectual property with a business entity, giving that same entity the ability to adjust internal motivation, or alter sensory inp…

> What troubles me is not the permission to read, but to write.

Argh, I can just imagine having extremely realistic advertisements beamed directly into my mind, in exchange for something like immediate translation.

It's gonna be really weird when those perfume ads start before Christmas.

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