Psychiatry is a failed science. False promises of cures that usually do more harm with debilitating "side effects" to their drugs and barbaric shock treatments. Best to seek the help of a real medical professional, nutritionist, fitness trainer, etc. All these have a better chance to help you than the dice roll of a psychiatric "diagnosis".
Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
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Re: Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
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You rail against psychiatry, yet list "nutritionist"?
People have such terrible diets in the US. Deficiency in certain vitamins and other essential nutrients is scientifically proven by medical science to lead to mental health-type symptoms. Some people need help to learn what foods to eat properly because their parents never taught them how or they just have bad eating habits.
You don't need a nutritionist to tell you to stop eating junk/processed food. All other diet advice are pure b.s. as there's no scientific answer to what "a proper diet" is. What is "healthy" and what is not changes on a similar rate as weather broadcast i.e. see a recent turn on fat.
Re: Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
You rail against psychiatry, yet list "nutritionist"?
Also there's a very easy experiment you can use to prove this out at your next family reunion, Christmas or Thanksgiving party, etc. Feed a small child only sugar, watch him turn on first ADD then complete depression as you fail to continue to feed him sugar...
2. You don't seem to understand what ADD and depression are. They're vastly more serious and prolonged than the sort of candy-induced, momentary fit-throwing you're suggesting.
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#14How do you know which group is on the right course? It could be that the supposedly "rogue" jet that broke formation had realized the others had lost course, and thus reestablished the "correct" course.
Thus is the problem of psychiatry. It makes the subjective and critical judgement that the behavior exhibited by most people signifies health, and any deviance from the statistical mean is diseased; evolution be damned.
Such an assumption has led to a variety of compulsory "treatments": indefinite solitary confinement, electrocution, lobotomies[1], and gas chambers[2].
[1]http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/the-forgotten-lobotomies...
Re: Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
#15Psychiatry is a failed science. False promises of cures that usually do more harm with debilitating "side effects" to their drugs and barbaric shock treatments. Best to seek the help of a real medical professional, nutritionist, fitness trainer, etc. All these have a better chance to help you than the dice roll of a psychiatric "diagnosis".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist
Psychiatrists are medical doctors.
Re: Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
#16Psychiatry is a failed science. False promises of cures that usually do more harm with debilitating "side effects" to their drugs and barbaric shock treatments. Best to seek the help of a real medical professional, nutritionist, fitness trainer, etc. All these have a better chance to help you than the dice roll of a psychiatric "diagnosis".
i'm inclined to agree, but i'd also like to temper your use of the "f" word: it's a work in progress.
sure they've had decades to sort it out, but psychiatry is complex material. general shamanism has been replaced by its modern equivalent which is actually significantly better in quite a few different dimensions and can actually provide relief to some patients. if the science of psychiatry is incomplete and flawed and terrible, fine-- i agree entirely.
but if it can provide relief to the median patient-- even if it's only a little bit of relief-- so long as that relief outweighs the medication's side effects, it's worthwhile. and we won't get better without constantly trying things out and learning what works.
>usually do more harm with debilitating "side effects" to their drugs
this doesn't always follow. not all patients experience side effects, and most of those side effects are less debilitating than the disease symptoms which they are replacing. sure, there's the much shushed SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction (which may be permanent for some), the forcefully ignored antipsychotic-induced tardive dyskinesia (permanent and somewhat disfiguring).
but then there's also the upshot: many side effects reside with time, and in some contexts treatment can actually address the underlying condition.
remember, the psychiatrist's metric for successful treatment is that the patient stops reporting their detrimental symptoms.
for most conditions, there is a drug which will accomplish that end with acceptable casualties.
Re: Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
People have such terrible diets in the US. Deficiency in certain vitamins and other essential nutrients is scientifically proven by medical science to lead to mental health-type symptoms. Some people need help to learn what foods to eat properly because their parents never taught them how or they just have bad eating habits.
> scientifically proven by medical science to lead to mental health-type symptoms. Which vitamin or mineral deficiency leads to psychosis? (With a link to this scientific proof please)
Both can cause mental symptoms (retardation for example). But both are rare.
Re: Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
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You rail against psychiatry, yet list "nutritionist"?
Also there's a very easy experiment you can use to prove this out at your next family reunion, Christmas or Thanksgiving party, etc. Feed a small child only sugar, watch him turn on first ADD then complete depression as you fail to continue to feed him sugar...
Here's an example regarding hyperactivity and sugar: http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/391812
Re: Philosophy of Psychiatry (2015)
#19Psychiatry is a failed science. False promises of cures that usually do more harm with debilitating "side effects" to their drugs and barbaric shock treatments. Best to seek the help of a real medical professional, nutritionist, fitness trainer, etc. All these have a better chance to help you than the dice roll of a psychiatric "diagnosis".
I can honestly only appreciate this comment as a form of sarcasm ? If instead you were serious please consider the following, our understanding of psychiatry is constantly evolving and psychiatrists are trained MDs, please don't confuse badly trained psychologists and the pharma industry trying to pump you full of drugs and nutritional supplements, with the science of psychiatry.
Pych doctors more than willing participants in the prescribing of stimulants and mild euphoriants. They get rich also doing so - 4/5 $200 appointments an hour is common, and if you look at the highest paid public employees in some states you'll see state-hired prison and other psychiatrists towards the top below university basketball coaches.